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I will be starting my build log as soon as I get a job, either this month (hopefully) or next month (at the latest) so I want to do everything right any buy the book. I drive a 2003 Saturn Ion with stock alternator for now(depending if I run my sub amp at 1 ohm or 2 ohms) and I have done the Big 2 (Grounds - Engine Block to Frame / 1run and Battery to Frame / 2runs) in Kicker HyperFlex 1/0 AWG. I will be using a Kenwood KDC-X492 (will be upgrading after the build is complete) for head unit with a Epic Center 160 for voltage and bass in older recordings since I listen to a lot of old school music. The subs have not been decided on and the interior speakers have not been decided on yet. I will be running the SAX-125.2 at 2 ohms on both channels and I will be running the SAZ-2000D at either 2 or 1 ohm (if one ohm I will be getting a HO alternator later on down the road once I find one).
Question #1: I see people comparing Kicker HyperFlex to KnuKonceptz 1/0 AWG wire and saying Knu wire has more strands and bigger, I have both wire and cant really tell (is it true)?
Question #2: Is Welding wire good and how does there 1/0AWG compare to Kicker HyperFlex and KnuKonceptz?
Question #3: When is welding wire 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0 AWG wire required for an install?
Question #4: My main battery is in the trunk (factory location, I will replace this with a bigger battery). I will be buying two batteries and using them as starting and system battery (either will be 2-80AH's if I use SAZ-2000d at 2ohms or 2-100AH's or more if I use SAZ-2000D at 1 ohm). What size wire should I use between the batteries I was thinking 1/0 AWG Knu wire from battery 1 to battery 2 (or should I use 2/0), 1/0 AWG from battery #2 to distribution block, 1/0 AWG (SAZ-2000D) and 4 AWG (SAE-125.2) to amps.
***To keep this a little clean and uncluttered with guesses, I would like people who have experience in this area and have actually used all three wires (just dont want someone answering just one question please try to give your input on all questions, thats why I want someone experienced otherwise it will turn into people answering just one question and the topic only centered around that answer). Thanks for input and help fellas.***
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:15 AM
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Head Unit: Clarion CZ-100 ****Pioneer DEH-P7200HD
Bass Processor & Volt Meter: Audio Control Epic-160
Highs: Crescendo Audio XST2
Highs Amp: Sundown Audio SAX-125.2
Mids: Oxygen Audio OM-605ND
Mids Amp: SPX Audio 2Ch.
Sub: Sundown SA-15 D2 Pre-Order
Sub Amp: Audiopipe APSM1300
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Head Unit: Clarion CZ-100 ****Pioneer DEH-P7200HD
Bass Processor & Volt Meter: Audio Control Epic-160
Highs: Crescendo Audio XST2
Highs Amp: Sundown Audio SAX-125.2
Mids: Oxygen Audio OM-605ND
Mids Amp: SPX Audio 2Ch.
Sub: Sundown SA-15 D2 Pre-Order
Sub Amp: Audiopipe APSM1300
Electrical: Stock 105 Valero Alternator ****DC Power H/O (275A)
Stock Group 34 Battery ****XS Power D3400
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:32 AM
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1 Sundown SAX-100.4 ~ Mids
1 Phoenix Gold 8.0:4 ~ Tweeters
2 db Drive A7 1500's @ .4ohm each
2 RE MT 18"s
Scores:
147.3db...... Legal
150.7db...... Kick
1 D9 @ .2ohm with 14.8v.... 153.3
2 D9 @ .8ohm with 11.9v.... 155.3
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2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:59 AM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:04 AM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:10 AM
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Interests:CAR AUDIO!!! oh and also CAR AUDIO!!!
DJ, basketball, comedy
2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:12 AM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:53 AM
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Interests:CAR AUDIO!!! oh and also CAR AUDIO!!!
DJ, basketball, comedy
2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 04:54 PM
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Bass Processor & Volt Meter: Audio Control Epic-160
Highs: Crescendo Audio XST2
Highs Amp: Sundown Audio SAX-125.2
Mids: Oxygen Audio OM-605ND
Mids Amp: SPX Audio 2Ch.
Sub: Sundown SA-15 D2 Pre-Order
Sub Amp: Audiopipe APSM1300
Electrical: Stock 105 Valero Alternator ****DC Power H/O (275A)
Stock Group 34 Battery ****XS Power D3400
****Coming Soon
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Head Unit: Clarion CZ-100 ****Pioneer DEH-P7200HD
Bass Processor & Volt Meter: Audio Control Epic-160
Highs: Crescendo Audio XST2
Highs Amp: Sundown Audio SAX-125.2
Mids: Oxygen Audio OM-605ND
Mids Amp: SPX Audio 2Ch.
Sub: Sundown SA-15 D2 Pre-Order
Sub Amp: Audiopipe APSM1300
Electrical: Stock 105 Valero Alternator ****DC Power H/O (275A)
Stock Group 34 Battery ****XS Power D3400
****Coming Soon
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hove, kross6622, Hanapi, mkrtu9, OldSkool_08, millertime, ScottXGTR, Miller, Blak, DblBelly
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 05:21 PM
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XS Batteries
Need 16" Ports and can come to Louisville, Ky to pick up? PM me!
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Compete? Contact me for PRECISE Songs to peak at almost ANY frequency requested between 20-100hz. I'm in it to win, R U?
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:30 PM
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And those who consider themselves only moderately religious really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solace and comfort that religion brings you actually comes at a terrible price. If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is, you'd resign in protest. - Bill Maher
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:59 PM
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And those who consider themselves only moderately religious really need to look in the mirror and realize that the solace and comfort that religion brings you actually comes at a terrible price. If you belonged to a political party or a social club that was tied to as much bigotry, misogyny, homophobia, violence, and sheer ignorance as religion is, you'd resign in protest. - Bill Maher
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:03 PM
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