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I will be starting my build log as soon as I get a job, either this month (hopefully) or next month (at the latest) so I want to do everything right any buy the book. I drive a 2003 Saturn Ion with stock alternator for now(depending if I run my sub amp at 1 ohm or 2 ohms) and I have done the Big 2 (Grounds - Engine Block to Frame / 1run and Battery to Frame / 2runs) in Kicker HyperFlex 1/0 AWG. I will be using a Kenwood KDC-X492 (will be upgrading after the build is complete) for head unit with a Epic Center 160 for voltage and bass in older recordings since I listen to a lot of old school music. The subs have not been decided on and the interior speakers have not been decided on yet. I will be running the SAX-125.2 at 2 ohms on both channels and I will be running the SAZ-2000D at either 2 or 1 ohm (if one ohm I will be getting a HO alternator later on down the road once I find one).
Question #1: I see people comparing Kicker HyperFlex to KnuKonceptz 1/0 AWG wire and saying Knu wire has more strands and bigger, I have both wire and cant really tell (is it true)?
Question #2: Is Welding wire good and how does there 1/0AWG compare to Kicker HyperFlex and KnuKonceptz?
Question #3: When is welding wire 2/0, 3/0 or 4/0 AWG wire required for an install?
Question #4: My main battery is in the trunk (factory location, I will replace this with a bigger battery). I will be buying two batteries and using them as starting and system battery (either will be 2-80AH's if I use SAZ-2000d at 2ohms or 2-100AH's or more if I use SAZ-2000D at 1 ohm). What size wire should I use between the batteries I was thinking 1/0 AWG Knu wire from battery 1 to battery 2 (or should I use 2/0), 1/0 AWG from battery #2 to distribution block, 1/0 AWG (SAZ-2000D) and 4 AWG (SAE-125.2) to amps.
***To keep this a little clean and uncluttered with guesses, I would like people who have experience in this area and have actually used all three wires (just dont want someone answering just one question please try to give your input on all questions, thats why I want someone experienced otherwise it will turn into people answering just one question and the topic only centered around that answer). Thanks for input and help fellas.***
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Welding Wire vs. KnuKonceptz vs Kicker HyperFlex
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:15 AM
2003 Saturn Ion-2 Current Build:
Build Log
Kenwood KDC-X492 (Head Unit)------------Getting Replaced
Audio Control Epic-160 (Bass Processor & Volt Meter)
4 Boss Audio TW12 Tweeters (Front & Rear Factory Speaker Wiring)-------------Getting Replaced
4 Eminence Alpha-6A 6.5" Midrange Speakers (SAX-125.2 amp @ 4 ohms)---------------Getting Replaced
Sundown Audio Z15 - D4 (2 ohm load)
Sundown Audio SAZ-2000D Amp - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0 AWG (Sub Amp)
Sundown Audio SAX-125.2 Amp - KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 AWG (Midrange Amp)
Electrical
AutoCraft Silver Stock (Primary Battery)--------------Getting Replaced
Valeo 105A Stock Alternator
System Upgrades: Coming Soon......
Alpine CDA-9886 or Pioneer Premier DEH-P710BT (Headunit)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OM6-120 - 6.5" Midrange Speakers (Sundown SAX-125.2)
4 Hybrid Audio Technologies Legatia L1V2 Tweeters (Sundown SAX-50.4)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OPW-M6 - 6.5" Midbass Speakers (Sundown SAX-50.4)
Sundown SAX-50.4 or Sax-125.2 (KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 gauge)
2 Batteries (100AH or better each)
Welding Supply Wire (3/0 AWG)
KnuKonceptz SS Karma 16 gauge Speaker Wire (Midranges, Midbasses and Tweeters)
KnuKonceptz Kolossus 8 Gauge Power Wire (Subwoofers)
For Sale (PM me if interested).............
4 Pairs of Eminence Alpha - 6A (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.6 db/ 8 ohms/ 118Hz(Fs)/ 85-6,000Hz)
3 Eminence Alpha - 6C (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.3 db/ 4 ohms/ 107Hz(Fs)/ 81-5,500Hz) - 1 pair still Brand New In Box
1 Oxygen Audio OM-605ND (Power Midrange - 6.5" 100Rms/ 97 db/ 4 ohms/ 130-15,000Hz)
Build Log
Kenwood KDC-X492 (Head Unit)------------Getting Replaced
Audio Control Epic-160 (Bass Processor & Volt Meter)
4 Boss Audio TW12 Tweeters (Front & Rear Factory Speaker Wiring)-------------Getting Replaced
4 Eminence Alpha-6A 6.5" Midrange Speakers (SAX-125.2 amp @ 4 ohms)---------------Getting Replaced
Sundown Audio Z15 - D4 (2 ohm load)
Sundown Audio SAZ-2000D Amp - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0 AWG (Sub Amp)
Sundown Audio SAX-125.2 Amp - KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 AWG (Midrange Amp)
Electrical
AutoCraft Silver Stock (Primary Battery)--------------Getting Replaced
Valeo 105A Stock Alternator
System Upgrades: Coming Soon......
Alpine CDA-9886 or Pioneer Premier DEH-P710BT (Headunit)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OM6-120 - 6.5" Midrange Speakers (Sundown SAX-125.2)
4 Hybrid Audio Technologies Legatia L1V2 Tweeters (Sundown SAX-50.4)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OPW-M6 - 6.5" Midbass Speakers (Sundown SAX-50.4)
Sundown SAX-50.4 or Sax-125.2 (KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 gauge)
2 Batteries (100AH or better each)
Welding Supply Wire (3/0 AWG)
KnuKonceptz SS Karma 16 gauge Speaker Wire (Midranges, Midbasses and Tweeters)
KnuKonceptz Kolossus 8 Gauge Power Wire (Subwoofers)
For Sale (PM me if interested).............
4 Pairs of Eminence Alpha - 6A (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.6 db/ 8 ohms/ 118Hz(Fs)/ 85-6,000Hz)
3 Eminence Alpha - 6C (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.3 db/ 4 ohms/ 107Hz(Fs)/ 81-5,500Hz) - 1 pair still Brand New In Box
1 Oxygen Audio OM-605ND (Power Midrange - 6.5" 100Rms/ 97 db/ 4 ohms/ 130-15,000Hz)
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:32 AM
Car: 96 Honda Accord F22B1 Coupe
Alternator: DC Power XP style 230/150 amps
Front battery: Duralast Gold
Head unit: Kenwood KDC-MP638U
Front door components: Image Dynamics CTX65CS
Component amp: Rockford Fosgate P-500.2
Sub amp: Audiopipe AP-30001D
Subs: 2 10" Fi SSD (copper coils, BP power)
Sub box: 3 ft^3 tuned to 34hz daily / 44hz competition
Rear battery: XS Power D3100 + D5100
Wiring: 1 run of 2/0 Welding cable
Deadener: Sound Deadener Showdown
Coming soon: two new batteries, and a new electric blue powder coated DC Power alternator. O and a new competition box too.
Alternator: DC Power XP style 230/150 amps
Front battery: Duralast Gold
Head unit: Kenwood KDC-MP638U
Front door components: Image Dynamics CTX65CS
Component amp: Rockford Fosgate P-500.2
Sub amp: Audiopipe AP-30001D
Subs: 2 10" Fi SSD (copper coils, BP power)
Sub box: 3 ft^3 tuned to 34hz daily / 44hz competition
Rear battery: XS Power D3100 + D5100
Wiring: 1 run of 2/0 Welding cable
Deadener: Sound Deadener Showdown
Coming soon: two new batteries, and a new electric blue powder coated DC Power alternator. O and a new competition box too.
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:36 AM
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1 Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X993
1 Kinetik HC-2400
1 Sundown SAX-100.4
1 Sundown SAZ-2000D
2 RE MT 18"s
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1 Sundown SAZ-2000D
2 RE MT 18"s
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:58 AM
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This post has been edited by djphilly: 03 November 2009 - 01:02 AM
2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 12:59 AM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:04 AM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:10 AM
2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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CrazyKenKid
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:12 AM
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DJ, basketball, comedy
Posted 03 November 2009 - 01:53 AM
2000 FORD EXPEDITION EDDIE BAUER
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
current system
Kenwood KVT-719dvd
Massive audio P 800.4
(4)soundstream TWS.4 tweeters
(4)Hifonics ZUES 6x8's
just to get by
SOON TO COME
above items plus:
(1)Mechman 250 amp alt or 300amp alt
Kinetik HC2400 or HC3800 batts
(4)soundstream pro series SST-05 bullet tweeters
(8)soundstream pro series SM16-90 mid bass woofers
(1)soundstream REF4.760
(2)Soundstream XXX-6500d
(2)Soundstream XXX-18's
(1)Soundstream XBP-10 SPL Competition Signal Processor
Knukonceptz Kolossus flex 1/0 cable
and NO, I'm not sponsored
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 04:54 PM
2003 Saturn Ion-2 Current Build:
Build Log
Kenwood KDC-X492 (Head Unit)------------Getting Replaced
Audio Control Epic-160 (Bass Processor & Volt Meter)
4 Boss Audio TW12 Tweeters (Front & Rear Factory Speaker Wiring)-------------Getting Replaced
4 Eminence Alpha-6A 6.5" Midrange Speakers (SAX-125.2 amp @ 4 ohms)---------------Getting Replaced
Sundown Audio Z15 - D4 (2 ohm load)
Sundown Audio SAZ-2000D Amp - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0 AWG (Sub Amp)
Sundown Audio SAX-125.2 Amp - KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 AWG (Midrange Amp)
Electrical
AutoCraft Silver Stock (Primary Battery)--------------Getting Replaced
Valeo 105A Stock Alternator
System Upgrades: Coming Soon......
Alpine CDA-9886 or Pioneer Premier DEH-P710BT (Headunit)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OM6-120 - 6.5" Midrange Speakers (Sundown SAX-125.2)
4 Hybrid Audio Technologies Legatia L1V2 Tweeters (Sundown SAX-50.4)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OPW-M6 - 6.5" Midbass Speakers (Sundown SAX-50.4)
Sundown SAX-50.4 or Sax-125.2 (KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 gauge)
2 Batteries (100AH or better each)
Welding Supply Wire (3/0 AWG)
KnuKonceptz SS Karma 16 gauge Speaker Wire (Midranges, Midbasses and Tweeters)
KnuKonceptz Kolossus 8 Gauge Power Wire (Subwoofers)
For Sale (PM me if interested).............
4 Pairs of Eminence Alpha - 6A (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.6 db/ 8 ohms/ 118Hz(Fs)/ 85-6,000Hz)
3 Eminence Alpha - 6C (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.3 db/ 4 ohms/ 107Hz(Fs)/ 81-5,500Hz) - 1 pair still Brand New In Box
1 Oxygen Audio OM-605ND (Power Midrange - 6.5" 100Rms/ 97 db/ 4 ohms/ 130-15,000Hz)
Build Log
Kenwood KDC-X492 (Head Unit)------------Getting Replaced
Audio Control Epic-160 (Bass Processor & Volt Meter)
4 Boss Audio TW12 Tweeters (Front & Rear Factory Speaker Wiring)-------------Getting Replaced
4 Eminence Alpha-6A 6.5" Midrange Speakers (SAX-125.2 amp @ 4 ohms)---------------Getting Replaced
Sundown Audio Z15 - D4 (2 ohm load)
Sundown Audio SAZ-2000D Amp - Kicker Hyperflex 1/0 AWG (Sub Amp)
Sundown Audio SAX-125.2 Amp - KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 AWG (Midrange Amp)
Electrical
AutoCraft Silver Stock (Primary Battery)--------------Getting Replaced
Valeo 105A Stock Alternator
System Upgrades: Coming Soon......
Alpine CDA-9886 or Pioneer Premier DEH-P710BT (Headunit)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OM6-120 - 6.5" Midrange Speakers (Sundown SAX-125.2)
4 Hybrid Audio Technologies Legatia L1V2 Tweeters (Sundown SAX-50.4)
4 Oxygen Audio (O2) OPW-M6 - 6.5" Midbass Speakers (Sundown SAX-50.4)
Sundown SAX-50.4 or Sax-125.2 (KnuKnoceptz Kolossus Fleks 4 gauge)
2 Batteries (100AH or better each)
Welding Supply Wire (3/0 AWG)
KnuKonceptz SS Karma 16 gauge Speaker Wire (Midranges, Midbasses and Tweeters)
KnuKonceptz Kolossus 8 Gauge Power Wire (Subwoofers)
For Sale (PM me if interested).............
4 Pairs of Eminence Alpha - 6A (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.6 db/ 8 ohms/ 118Hz(Fs)/ 85-6,000Hz)
3 Eminence Alpha - 6C (6.5" Midrange Speakers 100Rms/ 93.3 db/ 4 ohms/ 107Hz(Fs)/ 81-5,500Hz) - 1 pair still Brand New In Box
1 Oxygen Audio OM-605ND (Power Midrange - 6.5" 100Rms/ 97 db/ 4 ohms/ 130-15,000Hz)
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 05:21 PM
If you want a Box Design fitted for your vehicle, PM me for Private Consultation.
I get lots of request on here so i need to keep you guys organized while I help everyone.
I'm not responding to PMs? read this- Reason for Late responses
2007 Scion tC
Team DC Audio
Alpine IVA-W205 with Blackbird II
Image Dynamic 6.5" Front stage Components
Sundown 100.4 Powering Components
2 AQ 3500ds
4 Custom DC Audio Level 4 15s
Stinger Xpert 3/0 cable
KnukonceptZ Kolossus Flex 1/0 cable
KnukonceptZ Kolossus Standard 1/0 cable
Mechman 250A Hot-Rated Alternator @ 14.9v
XS Powermaster Batteries
Over 60ft of 8awg speaker wire
15+ CuFt Wall Tuned to 35hz Daily\55hz Competition
Oznium Wheel Well and Underbody Blaze Lighting
Oznium UV Lighting for the Wall
Sign Networks Custom Reflective Vinyl Graphics
VipeR+ and ACE Security Automotive Protection
Need Test Tones? Download them here-
Largest Collection Yet!
Test Tones provided by ShiZZZoN
I get lots of request on here so i need to keep you guys organized while I help everyone.
I'm not responding to PMs? read this- Reason for Late responses
2007 Scion tC
Team DC Audio
Alpine IVA-W205 with Blackbird II
Image Dynamic 6.5" Front stage Components
Sundown 100.4 Powering Components
2 AQ 3500ds
4 Custom DC Audio Level 4 15s
Stinger Xpert 3/0 cable
KnukonceptZ Kolossus Flex 1/0 cable
KnukonceptZ Kolossus Standard 1/0 cable
Mechman 250A Hot-Rated Alternator @ 14.9v
XS Powermaster Batteries
Over 60ft of 8awg speaker wire
15+ CuFt Wall Tuned to 35hz Daily\55hz Competition
Oznium Wheel Well and Underbody Blaze Lighting
Oznium UV Lighting for the Wall
Sign Networks Custom Reflective Vinyl Graphics
VipeR+ and ACE Security Automotive Protection
Need Test Tones? Download them here-
Largest Collection Yet!
Test Tones provided by ShiZZZoN
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:30 PM
Little angel, go away
Come again some other day
Devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say
He Promised I would find a little solace and some peace of mind
Whatever. Just as long as I don't feel so desperate and ravenous
Come again some other day
Devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say
He Promised I would find a little solace and some peace of mind
Whatever. Just as long as I don't feel so desperate and ravenous
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:34 PM
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 09:59 PM
Little angel, go away
Come again some other day
Devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say
He Promised I would find a little solace and some peace of mind
Whatever. Just as long as I don't feel so desperate and ravenous
Come again some other day
Devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say
He Promised I would find a little solace and some peace of mind
Whatever. Just as long as I don't feel so desperate and ravenous
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Posted 03 November 2009 - 10:03 PM
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