I didn't ignore you . I told you we had not tested the amp at 12-13 volts, but the math would indicate around 1800 at around 12.5- 13 volts. After talking with you I decided to have it AP tested at 12 volts I have now had the amp AP tested at an EXACT 12volts with the following results: 1400@12v@1%thd 1800@12v@5%thd 1900@12v@10%thd I wasn't trying to be evasive answering your question; I just don't like to give numbers based on estimates. dj