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Amazing how people can't google the difference between a 4th order vented and a 4th order BP. Www.diysubwoofers.org

Sounds good. I'm almost positive that I will still pick up a 12" Zcon. After having owned a 12" RE XXX (and been out of car audio for a while), I've scoured for a new "megatron" of ""SQL"" subwoofers that can meet/exceed theoverall performance of the XXX. I have quite a few other subs that I could/do use that I absolutely love for different reasons (JBL WGTi's, OS Cerwin-Vega Strokers), but there something massively appealing about owning a true all-around supersub. After looking at the parameters for the Zcon, it definitely fits the bill.

Why not? What's wrong with comparing speakers on a scientific level? With as many supersubs as there are now a days, it would be nice to see distortion graphs the way that pro-audio companies publicly put on their websites, such as JBL. It's not like asking for proprietary information like internal motor dimensions/gap heights/angles, winding characteristics/etc. This is more relevant to the signal being fed to the woofer. It's essentially useless just as the distortion rating for amplifiers. With all due respect, I disagree. IMHO, speaker companies haven't been focusing on reducing the distortion-producing components just to make their results irrelevant. Yes I listen with my ears too, but with a degree in math and physics I have to say that my brain is already hardwired to thrive on numbers/data to make sense of things. Like it or not, it is how I am.

I see. Do you have any distortion graphs at all that you could present?

I knew Dumax isn't that popular anymore, but I don't see how Klippel would be phased out seeing as how finite element analysis is primarily used to design the motor structures. I've never seen a driver "tested" using FEA to plot actual BL/Cms/Le vs position distortion graphs which is why I asked. Of course I could be wrong.

are Dumax and/or Klippel measurement reports available for the Zcon series? Particularly interested in the 12".

I know its an old post, but with regards to low inductance 18s, it doesn't get much better than Aura's NRT subwoofers: The 15"s were used in Magico's Ultimate II home speakers that sold for several hundred thousand dollars:

great site, although I must say I have never had so much trouble trying to buy some speakers that I found offered "for sale" when I have cash in hand...LOL...its funny how when you didn't have money, all these cool speakers that you want are just everywhere, and when you do have money, it proves impossible ...lol rant over...thanks for reading...lol

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thanks everyone! thats cool...I'd like to teach physics as well, but who knows when and if I find an opening...for now its Math Dept hehe

missed this forum when I registered, but I can already see this is a great site I've been an audio enthusiast for nearly 15 years and have mostly dealt with mobile audio, but I'm also getting into Pro-Audio as well.....my other interests include working on my car/racing, and guitar....I hold a BS in Math & Physics and teach HS math