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Did you try reversing the polarity?

It's out of phase somewhere. Flip the positive and negative wires.

It's a very photogenic sub by nature lol. Maybe it's just me that thinks that though.

Not quite sure which picture?

Aren't you using a HFI 1500D? yes but i want an amp that will really push the sa's. I've had the hfi 1500 for a while now This.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1800W-CAR-AMPLIFIER-AUDIOPIPE-1-CHANNEL-AQX-1800-1-/390337132522?pt=Car_Amplifiers&hash=item5ae1e7f7ea If you're on a budget try that. I have one on my SA-12's and it's the best amp I've ever owned. I have a couple of vids if you would like to see them. I know people knock Audiopipe because it's cheap, but honestly that amp is solid. It has high quality RCA jacks and runs pretty cool on my stock electrical with only 4 gauge Knu wire. It stood up to the hottest summer in Central Texas history so I'd say it's plenty durable. Been running it at 1 ohm since the day I got it.

The f? Elaborate!

Same here. I always browsed the old classifieds. That's how I bought most of my stuff. Didn't really need some things, but something caught my eye. Now you have to search to find something and you can't find stuff people are listing or can't list because it doesn't work. This is how I ended up buying most of my equipment too. You see something and say "that'd be nice to have" or "damn I've been wanting one of those" and get in touch with the seller. That way you come across things you wouldn't buy normally and may not even think about buying. The way it is now kinda loses that "buying on a whim" feel that you get at flea markets if you know what I mean.

I'm in Waco, I'd be down for a lil get together. It'd be cool to meet some SSA guys.

That shit is dope.

There is a reason why woofersetc. have three brands they have never carried before suddenly on the main page banner. There has been nothing but a stream of copy cat's carrying mostly the same brands we have been carrying for a good while. Apparently now everyone is an XS Power/IA/Sundown/SKAR/Mechman dealer, even Ed Lester. If you can't beat em...

I pucking love boxes. Pre-Order and get the LIMITED EDITION BOX SET which includes: All specifications (which are underrated, of course). Limited Edition product art. Limited Edition instruction manuals (which include professional testing results). And an authentic certificate of underratedness which will have the cleaning power of your particular toothbrush, tested in house of course. This is only available for customers who pre-order and at the rate they're going you wanna hurry!!!

Or it could be like the subsections we have now where the posts are, minus general audio. Ampiliers & Electrical (don't remember off the top of my head) Subs & Speakers Fabrication & Sound Deadener (not sure who sells used deadener lol) That way they won't be so empty til it gets busier. PS, I don't understand how to answer the poll lol. Which is yes and Which is no?

Yeah this is not something that impresses ME. But as I said earlier do what makes YOU happy. Oh nah, I didn't mean it like "subsonics r bettar!" I was just saying that's why I like it. People ask why tune so low and that's my answer. BTW, Sorry if I'm interpreting your post wrong, the internet sucks.

Super low tuning is something you have to experience. Dropping into the high teens at full volume is fun as hell, especially when you don't have to explain to people how low it is. They just feel it and make crazy ass faces lol. The best part is when you can feel it and see the car flexing in and out but you can hardly hear anything. Some people don't think that's important but I'd love my setup a lot less if I couldn't do that. ANYWAY, sounds like a cool project. My dad just thinks I'm burning up my electrical system....

I would've been soooooo pissed. Glad it's ok though.

In the back of my head, I kind of figured that...but I do want to hear a GCON in person though and need a good excuse to own one. Back to the topic at hand!

Depends on the enclosure, and what bandwidth you are referring to. As I said in the locked thread, the Gcon is more sealed enclosure oriented, the SSD is more ported oriented. The Gcon leans towards larger enclosures than the SSD. So, for example, if you were looking to use a sealed enclosure the Gcon would be a little better option & would have more output over most of the bandwidth compared to the SSD. Out of curiosity...say I'm in the market for a budget HT setup. Which sub would do better tuned to say...the high teens for movies? Don't mean to threadjack, just something I had been wondering.

As a college kid...I heard that shit... Get a nice car or something...

It's a horrible, empty feeling isn't it?..... J/k, being bass-less does suck though.

Shit.

Purely? But that's rhetorical, I'm in the same boat lol.

I'm not familiar with that amp but hands on experience is the best info IMO. If you think they will take the power with no problems then I would trust that you knew when too much was too much. There was too much info that was unclear to suggest that he do it though. Ah well then I feel more comfortable about you knowing your system. There was so much info that I felt like were just guesses which is why I said not to do it.

Haha I screwed up the math, my bad. But the point is still the same. I'm not calling you a beginner because I think you don't know what you're doing or trying to insult you if that's what you think. In my experience people who ask things like "will this woofer take x watts" don't know when their woofer is giving up. If you knew when to back off you wouldn't have to ask. What I DON'T WANT, is for us to make him think its ok to grossly over power his woofers because "Sundown subs are beast!" or because "impedance rise will make it where the woofers won't see that much." Sundown makes good woofers. Impedance rise exists. But that doesn't mean that the woofers won't blow on that amp. I don't want you to blow your woofers...that's all? I was hoping for people who actually has the E series to reply and tell me what amp they are using and was hoping somebody is overpowering these subs. That hope part...Is what bothers me.I think this is a bad idea because of all the assumptions involved. 1. We're assuming that the amp doesn't make 1700w. 2. We're assuming that the E's will be in a good box. 3. We're assuming that the E's have enough cooling (and general thermal capability) to handle the unknown amount of power that the amp makes. 4. We're assuming that he knows to turn it down when and if they show warning signs (smells, bottoming out, etc) 5. I'm assuming that they'll be in a ported box and won't be played below tuning. Now if he has all those covered, I don't think he would be asking for help. OP, all those reasons are why I would recommend the SD or SA series. They fit your amp better and you wouldn't really have to worry about them blowing because of overpowering.

Haha I screwed up the math, my bad. But the point is still the same. I'm not calling you a beginner because I think you don't know what you're doing or trying to insult you if that's what you think. In my experience people who ask things like "will this woofer take x watts" don't know when their woofer is giving up. If you knew when to back off you wouldn't have to ask. What I DON'T WANT, is for us to make him think its ok to grossly over power his woofers because "Sundown subs are beast!" or because "impedance rise will make it where the woofers won't see that much." Sundown makes good woofers. Impedance rise exists. But that doesn't mean that the woofers won't blow on that amp. I don't want you to blow your woofers...that's all?

Actually I do hear that slapping and that's the sub unloaded FREE-AIR, no one runs subs Free-air especially these subs. Granted his "rated" power is more than the E series are rated to handle however, all sundown products from my experience are OVER built. I have sold and installed E/D and SA series sundown subs and they have ALL taken more power than rated easily. His amp is "rated" at 1700watts at 1ohm mono, again remember that nominal ratings are just that nominal and not what is seen during music play. Because as frequency changes so does impedance, that coupled with the efficiency of the amp I think he will be fine. As well as long as his amp gain is set properly and not just cranked to max he will be fine. Also most people crank the "bass boost" again another option to remember to leave at 0dB because it's just not efficient. Now I am by NO means an amplifier expert but Jacob has a nice topic on why you should never rely on nominal impedance ratings. Overall he should be perfectly fine with the E series to start out even with that amplifier. http://www.hifonics....s_BRZ_Amps.html Although it says CEA compliant I would really need to see a clamp test before I believe that amp does 1700watts. Anyway the bottom line is he shoud be fine as long as the proper settings are done on the amp and the enclosure is built well. My SA-12's are getting about 900w each and laughing at it. I can play them for hours and the dustcaps don't even warm up, even when my voltage starts to trail off into the high 12's and the power isn't as clean anymore. I know first hand how over built Sundown subs are. BUTTTTT I also know giving a 4-500 watt woofer to a beginner who is trying to run them at 750+ each (granted that the amplifier provides 1300w like he said ) is a terrible idea. ESPECIALLY if he thinks that what he saw in that video was the sub "taking it" and not being murdered. I don't think he would know when to back off and to say those subs could handle that amp no problem is...well...not smart. EDIT: Also...I think it's a HORRIBLE idea to have someone who is new rely on impedance rise to save their woofers...maybe I misunderstood if that's what you meant and I apologize if I did. If the amp does anything close to rated power for even a few moments I don't think the E's will like that at all. Especially not over months and months of being on the verge of failure.