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    165+ dB Testing @ Sundown

    At lower power the Yellow spiders were about 2.5dB louder than the stock black ones; but at high power only 0.1-0.2 dB louder. So this means we need to look elsewhere to make gains -- such as stronger motors, tweaking the cabin and box, etc. Very cool information to have on hand, though, in case anyone is doing a lower clamped power class with a similar big 4th order
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    165+ dB Testing @ Sundown

    We did some testing last night one vs. one woofer... stock Z v.3 compared to Z v.3 with ONE extra spider (Yellow spider pack). One on one it made a very substantial gain. Have to build a mate for it to try two subs (coming soon) So we will also be making a set with TWO extra spiders (Red NS v.3 spider pack) compared to stock to see if it keeps going or tapers off.
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    165+ dB Testing @ Sundown

    Since we showed it out in the wild now here are the pics : * Vehicle is a SEAT Terra * Probably the funniest looking vehicle ever made. * Two NS-1 amps * Closer view. There are 32x D1600 XS Power batteries up top. * Trophies from the weekend; 165.4 in IASCA and 165.8 in dB Drag SS 1-2 * Right now we have two layers of Audio Technix 80-Mil on the roof with a Sundown Logo "head liner" on top of it. * Two completely stock Z v.3 18s in small boxes. We whipped these up quick to do initial testing -- we'll be making better chambers and better attachment methods for them soon. * Through the port... more port testing will be forthcoming as well.
  4. These amps are due mid to late September. This is our ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival) -- as in it's our best estimate based on the information we have right now. It is subject to customers and transit delays -- so please, DO NOT pre-order if you cannot accept possible delays. To pre-order visit your favorite authorized dealer locally or online OR for the purpose of the pre-order send us payment via Paypal to sales@sundownaudio.com -- include a FULL description of what you are ordering and be sure you have a CONFIRMED shipping address. You can also call in and pre-order with a credit card with Debbie at 704-528-9700 Ext : 5 ---------- PRICING : MODEL // Regular Price // Pre-Order Price NS-1 v.2 : $1900 -- $1500 SAZ-5000D : $1520 -- $1200 SAX-150.2 : $400 -- $350 SAX-100.4 v.2 : $400 -- $350 ---------- SPECIFICATIONS : Full manual here for all but NS-1 v.2 : http://www.sundownaudio.com/misc/Manuals/SundownManualRev3.pdf ---------- PHOTOS : * NS-1 v.2 and the 5000D side to side * Opposite end SAZ-5000D and NS-1 v.2 * NS-1 v.2 on top and 5000D on bottom * Top side of both amps ----- * SAZ-12000D compared to new SAX-150.2 * SAX-150.2 Crossover Side * 150.2 Internals; it is full-range Class-D * New SAX-100.4 v.2 below the SAZ-1200D for comparison * SAX-100.4 v.2 Crossover Panel * SAX-100.4 v.2 Internals
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    Nightshade v.3 Information

    Small update from our machine shop -- we had to go aluminum rather than copper for the low inductance pole sleeve. It was going to run-over the budget by around $100 per driver (ouch!). So that was out. Good news is I have also tested aluminum sleeves and they work very well too
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    Nightshade v.3 Information

    It will vary based on the coil -- the "official" rating for the stock setup is 2500 RMS.
  7. I am closing pre-ordering. The amps are due Tuesday to Wednesday.
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    Cracked SA-15 dustcap

    We stock all parts for our woofers -- almost every model.
  9. Z v.4 12" D1 : Z v.4 12" D2 :
  10. Just got done unloading the trucks... the 15s and 18s are here in stock for the first time. We have additional 12D2 models for any over-flow overs as well. Any 10s either coil or 12D1 we'll still have to build until the next shipment. Also some X-18 in D2 and D4 were on the truck as well as re-stocking quantities of SA-10/12/15 and SD-2 10/12 woofers.
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    SAE-600d question

    It is not yet available.
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    X reviews?

    Also some *peak* SPL drop is to be expected due to the above reasons compared to something like the SA series.
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    X reviews?

    It really boils down to a few things : 1) The X has a dramatically louder bottom-end than the SA series or any other speaker we made before. 2) The X has WAY less suspension induced distortion than our SA series or any other speaker we made before. If either one of those things is something you don't like -- you may not like the X. The closest thing to a complaint I've had is some folks interpret 1 and 2 together as the driver lacking top-end -- but it's actually a lack of parameter shift over stroke; the driver stays FLAT rather than increasing the top-end over stroke. Here is a post I made on CACO about it : "The new platform drivers are a totally different animal than anything we've made before; and anything most anyone has made before. Not only are we starting with a lower FS but our FS changes VERY little over stroke. It's a much lower distortion sound but the distortion of shifting Fs (and Qts) has a sound best described as "punchy" to the ear. See the following (don't mind the objective # in the FS column -- just look at how it changes) : * At 2" p-p the SA-12 FS is over 50% higher than at-rest * At 2" p-p the SA-12 Qts has risen to triple it's rest value * At 2" p-p the Z v.4 Fs has changed essentially none * At 2" p-p the Z v.4 Qts has changed VERY little; with a max deviation of ~25% or so on the forward stroke ----- Now... take a woofer and model it up with those changes to the parameters found on the SA-12 (which is a good representation of how many standard drivers act). You will see a massive increase in output toward the top-end and a massive decrease at the bottom-end over stroke. On the Z v.4 you will not see this -- the response remains relatively unchanged over stroke. So compared to a less linear driver the increase in bottom-end over stroke can be MASSIVE as it simply does not drop off over stroke... but you won't hear the "punch" at the top-end generated by the distortion modes of shifting parameters. ----- In many conversations with Dan Wiggins this theme came up... with XBL^2 you greatly reduce the QTS rise from a BL perspective (we are reducing it from a suspension perspective which also greatly reduces FS shift). Even then people complained that the Brahma drivers were not "punchy" -- what they actually were complaining about was a lack of distortion. Down the line I plan to combine our suspension platform with a linear BL topology as well. That definitely won't be for everyone as the shifts of every parameter will decrease even further. ----- In any event -- I expected to hear these type of reviews based on what people said about XBL^2 drivers 10+ years ago. Bottom line, to me, is that the design is objectively superior and fits what customers told me they wanted from their subs -- the most bottom end possible. Our SPL suspension system that is in the works for the new platform will offer a more "traditional" sound and also work better for higher frequency SPL for the same reason."
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    NeoPro v.2 In Stock : 8-16-13

    Just came in about an hour ago ! So they are now in full stock in 6.5 , 8 , and 10" models in 8 ohm and 4 ohm. * Included Speaker Caulk
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    E-10/12 V.2 Now Available

    We unloaded these last week -- they are fully in stock in D2 and D4 coils at the same price as always. Rating is now 500-watts RMS due to the longer coil and modifications to the soft parts. They feature a longer coil, bigger surround, deeper motor structure, and a few other minor modifications. The E-15 v.2 will be coming at some point in October to November.
  16. See below for X series production parameters : ----- X-10 D2 : X-10 D4 : X-12 D2 : X-12 D4 : X-15 D2 : X-15 D4 : X-18 D2 : X-18 D4 :
  17. Cool comparison pictures AND introducing the TEAM Sundown motor that is in development. It will be our first 4" coil motor. Before you ask... ETA and price not yet available. As usual both will be announced when they ARE available. * From Left to Right : TEAM Sundown, NS v.3, NS v.2, Z v.4, NS v.1, Z v.3, Z v.2, and finally the X Motor
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    Early NS v.3 Pics

    Here are the photos from Facebook -- I suppose not everyone gets on our FB page so posting them on the forums too : * SPL Spiders shown with the Carbon Fiber Dust cap prototype
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    Early NS v.3 Pics

    2500 RMS with the "stock" coil; which will be a very long flat wire coil (longest coil we've ever had) -- eventually we'll be able to use most any 3" coil we've ever offered to tailor to different applications; the thermal handling will vary at that point. As far as spiders... as of when they first go on sale you could use X, Z v.4, or NS v.3 level stiffness pressed packs -- at 4, 5, or 6 layers respectively... black, yellow, and light red in color respectively as well. Then the SPL spiders are a different story all together -- we can do anywhere from 1 to 6 of those -- 6 of them will be a good bit stiffer than the hardest pressed pack setup.
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    Early NS v.3 Pics

    Sure is -- all the new motors for the new frames have very tall poles.
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    Sundown X Series Production Parameter Sheets

    We've gone up to 3 cubes -- but you do sacrifice some mechanical handling.
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    Sundown X Series Production Parameter Sheets

    Suggested boxes are something like this based on testing and data thusfar : X-10 : Sealed – 0.75 to 1.0 Ported – 1.25 to 1.75 X-12 : Sealed – 1.0 to 1.5 Ported – 2.25 to 2.75 X-15 : Sealed – 2.0 to 3.0 Ported – 3.5 to 4.5 X-18 : Sealed – 4.0 to 6.0 Ported – 5.0 to 7.0
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    E-10/12 V.2 Now Available

    Forgot to post up the T/S specs : E-10 D2: E-10 D4: E-12 D2: E-12 D4:
  24. Our friend Nick Lemons (of Obsidian Audio and Stereo Integrity) was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis about six years ago and a good friend of ours, Terri, will be riding her bike in a huge event held every year to help raise awareness and funds to find a cure for MS. Terri will be riding in the Bike MS Atlanta Ride this September 14'th. From now until September 14'th for every $10 you donate you will get one entry towards the raffle to win a pair of Obsidian Audio 12" v2 subwoofers and a Prototype Obsidian Audio OA-1 1200 watt amplifier PLUS a pair of Obsidian Audio ST-1 tweeters! For instance, if you donate $50 you will be entered five times. If you donate $100 you will be entered ten times. If you donate $10 you will be entered once. Be SURE to put "Obsidian Audio" or "OA" either in the "Recognition Name" field or the second "Street 2" field. Simply find a place to put our company name in with your donation so we know to enter you in the raffle. If you do not do this you will not be entered for a chance to win. Click the link below to visit the site for donations! Bike MS Cox Atlanta Ride 2013: Ms. Terri Louise Latimer - National MS Society
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    Updated Product ETA Information @ Sundown

    There are no major re-vamps of the SD-2 line planned -- it's simply an indicator of stock as we were sold out. We did recently add a magnet boot to them.
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