Mike1982

I am pondering the same question myself I have lots of tools but I have no table saw all I have is a jig saw & circular saw Its hard to make perfect cuts with it though. I am a pretty hand person but havent did a whole lot of wood working but I fix my own car & do my own installs.

If I buy the xcon 10s & its not what I am looking for I can always recone to 12s

& of course a pair of havoc 12s are 4 sale.

this is something to I will have to marinate on this but i am still kind of leaning in the direction of 10s ,3 10's would be sweet. I hate losing cone area but having some extra room would be nice but I really don't need the extra room for anything accept for my batteries & I guess flexibility with box sizes

That seems to make sense i think the gross internal volume is like 5.29 cu²

Are these still for sale?

the main goal with a new box that I would like is to maybe a wedge to have the angle of the top & back of the box to clear the trunk brace maybe something like this one in the pic. But this is just an idea I would like. I have the tools to build a box accept for a table saw I have a circular saw but I find it hard to make straight cuts with it I am pretty handy but have never tackled a box before i usually pay to have them done.

these vvx 12s are not bad subs they are taking my saz3500 but I don't know for how long & I figured I could have something that just sounds better than what I have.

I know SKARRRRRED 4 life thats why 400+400=1000 LOL

I wasnt planning on getting 4 batteries but I got such a good deal on them plus they are all the same age & they are all alike it seemed stupid to pass up. I was gonna get 2 xs power d3100's but when i came across these for less than 1 3100 I couldn't pass on it & thats how I ended up with 4 batteries

I am gonna get some xcons I am switching to 2 10s space wise that seems to work out better for those subs. I need to find a better place for the batteries like in the spare tire well or something car looks like I'm hawling a full load of shine LOL they are weighing my trunk down.

here is what it looks like right now w

I guess also it depends on the orientation of the subs if they are facing the cabin it would probably be better to have a little space in between the subs & the seats folded up the position of the port would be something to think about too. If I face them towards the trunk it would be nice to be able to push the box all the way back. I have only had the subs facing the rear but I have heard in most trunks thats the best way to do it. I am open to any suggestions & not set on anything just looking for the best sound I can get.

Here is my problem there is like a trunk bar that runs across the back of the trunk right around where the seats fold down. If I could clear that I could push the box all the way & have 5- 10inch of extra room

that was cool of you I wasnt expecting you to do that. Thats just like the box I have now for my 12s. What kind of air space would you recommend for ideally for the pair of tens. I will get some different measurements to get a better fit than what I currently have.

I thimking about picking up some x-con 10's seen some used ones on here that look decent

what about 10-32

The fi q would probably be a little cheaper too more sub choices in the mix yea!!! There is no lack of options thats for sure

I think that I will probably go with the xcons maybe some sundowns matching equipment would be nice but the I am leaning in the direction of the xcon but budget determines a lot too. Its is just such a big investment & I just want to make sure I am buying the proper subs this time.

probably the xcons, those tantrics hdds look nice too.

I had 3 10inch JL w6's about 10 years ago in a mustang & that was pretty awesome that was on an mtx81000d too so I am pretty excited about changing it all up.

I got one more for you & thats it I am not trying to bug the shit out of you. The dimensions i gave you earlier for my current box could I put some 10's in that box temporarily or is that a bad idea. I would like to thank you for taking the time to answer my questions & this has changed my whole outlook on what I want do with my setup & maybe I can get it to a point to where I am happy with it.

I have 2 skar vvx 12s right now & I am now considering dropping down to 2 10s I so I could have some flexibility . You think there would be much loss from dropping from 12's to 10's

I will do that for sure thank you for helping me with this

the thing that sucks is the part of the trunk comes down not allowing you to push the box all the way to the back of the trunk the box would have to be built like a wedge on top to clear that part of the trunk