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  1. You can get a 5" midrange to play 5Hz (probably not audibly, but you didn't specify that did you?) its not up to the speaker.

    No speaker can play 5Hz audibly... 5Hz isn't audible! tongue.png

    However, I'm mixed in this discussion. I am leaning more towards the "if you have to compare, you don't want the BL" side, but still fairly close to the middle.

    I bought Q's. I have two Q12s in the GTO and one Q10 in the Audi. I wanted SQ, and didn't spend much time looking at the others. I was a little curious about them though. That little 10 delivers an enormouse amount of SPL at very low frequency for a 10 in a sealed enclosure. And it sounds soooooo dang good doing it! Smoothest, cleanest sounding sub I've heard.


  2. Gain position means nothing on if an amp can put out max power or not. It can put full power on the minimum gain or the max, just depends on the input voltage from the RCA.

    The voltage the amp is putting out doesn't mean anything either unless you measured current as well. Then you'd have a ballpark measurement.

    Just like Current*Voltage=power, Voltage^2 = power.

    Ohm's law is very slippery.

    I=V/R

    I=80/1

    I=80

    P=I*R

    P=80*80

    P=1600

    And the "ear dyno":

    Previous amp: USA 1000x @ 2 Ohm stereo = metered at 1300 WRMS

    Current amp: Mmats 3000.1 @ 4 Ohms = "rated" at 3000 WRMS @ 1 Ohm

    Current setup, at rated power, should not be exceeding 750 WRMS. However, it is MUCH louder than the 1000+ WRMS it had before.

    Current amp measured at ~81-82v at MINIMUM gain (on a HU that only puts out about 2v, and is far from "linear" at that, set to "28" - approx 3/4-4/5 max vol)

    Coincidence or severely underrated? I'm thinking the latter.


  3. A lot of the stuff is out of their hands. The tracking isn't always accurate, ive had stuff from Fi say that it was just received to the shipping place a day later it was on my door steps.

    Dude's rocking Funky Pups! Hell yeas!

    :dancing:


  4. Hello I ordered a Fi BL 15, 25 days ago and tomorrow makes it 15 days since I got the UPS Quantum View email. I was just wondering when I might expect to see my sub.

    im on the same boat man... ordered 25 days ago too... waiting for my 12"fi q.

    itd be cool if they had a build progress tracking code

    btw couldnt help but notice u got a ranger glad to see more ranger owners going to Fi

    Oh noes... that means I still have at least another week! My order was only 19 days ago. Oh well. I know they're working on them, as I'm pretty sure they aren't just sitting around smoking a bong staring at bar stock, lol. I guess I check UPS again in about a week.

    In all honesty though, I'd rather have to wait a month then have them ship production overseas (and get crap) or have to hire more help, and in turn possibly have to raise prices. Waiting just sucks.


  5. Bought a Fi but wanting to cheap out on the amp?

    My opinion: save a little more and up the amp budget and look at Mmats. Put a high quality (like the sub) Made in the USA (also like the sub) amp on that thing! Mmats makes ALL of their amps in FL, USA. Plus, they are very underrated. My 3000.1D put out over 80 volts at minimum gain... that's well over TWICE it's rated power!


  6. If you didn't get a reply to an email odds are we simply didn't get it. Internet has been a bit dodgy the past week.

    I can vouch for this. Nick has been quick at responding to my emails.

    I, too, am waiting. I did finally get the UPS notification this weekend, which (IIRC) means that mine are getting built now! Yippee!

    They are a little slow, but worth it. You can't rush perfection! I would rather wait a few weeks and know that they take their time and the quality of product I am getting is top notch than have them rush and mass produce like other companies (like that "end all - be all of subs: Jay-Ell).


  7. They delivered it to 5020 instead of 5202. I remember looking at a signature confirmation picture and it had 5020 as the house number instead and so I went to that house and got my sub. I called mach5 and Mark couldn't do anything about it either as it was out of his hands. It was the shipping company. The person that signed for it said she knew it wasn't hers and my name was on the package and she still signed for it. What a hoe...

    As far as I am concerned, until it's in your hands, the seller is responsible. I.e. if it never shows up, they need to take it as a loss and send another. No reputable company would leave you out in the cold because of a screw up before it ever hit your possession. And I'm pretty sure no judge would side with them if they did.


  8. I've read some not so flattering things about those this evening. Also, they don't seem to do rated power at 2 Ohm or bridged. Of course that was only one review I saw where it's power was tested, so only one example.

    Just curious what reviews you were looking at. Got any links?

    This thread got me a little worried... it appears Steve "fixed" the real problem, but there are other little things that just shouldn't be with a new amp (referring to the board being longer than the chassis, etc)

    Zed Audio "Leviathan" my take on it.... - DIYMA.com

    This is the review where it exceed rating at 4ohm stereo, but fell a little short on the others: audio gear reviews - Amplifier Review - ZED Audio Leviathan

    The 4ohm stereo power is more than enough, but the bridged and/or 2 ohm power, isn't that great, considering it's not even making it.

    I was also looking at a couple mmats amps. Really wanted to go with one, but for not "too" much more than the leviathan I could have a SQ4100 and M1400. That would give me slightly less power on the four channels, but a lot more on the sub. And they make all their amps in the grand ole US of A!


  9. I need a 5/6 channel amp for one of my cars. I need about 75-150 or so watts per channel on channels 1-4, and a 5th (or 5th and 6th bridged) channel to run a sub with 500-1000 watts. I was looking at the following:

    US Amps AX-5600

    US Amps USA-5600x (getting hard to find)

    Hifonics Zeus ZXi60.4 + 1k

    Memphis Belle 16-MCH1300

    The only problem with the latter two is that they are most likely made in China... which is a huge turn off for me given my recent experience with chinese made amps.

    Anyone have any other suggestions? Sub is unimportant at the moment, as it will be picked after the amp is. I'm trying to stay under $500, if possible, but that is not a hard cap. I alos want to run just a single amp in this vehicle, if possible.

    Thanks!


  10. I've had MANY speakers replaced/reconed over the years due to burnt coils, bottoming out, etc. It will be warrantied. They have NO way of knowing how much power you put through them. Could have been a defect in the coating for all they know. I've even had Cerwin Vega recone a pair of XL15-D's a full YEAR beyond the end of the warranty, after clipping the hell out of the amp and frying the coils; and yes... they did it for free. I sent them a letter explaining my problem, and how I felt about the problem, and they called me and told me to send them in, and they will take care of it.


  11. Let me ask this then...

    Which would be louder in the 20-40Hz region while maintaining good SQ:

    1. Two 12's in ~1-1.25 cu ft sealed boxes (ea) with 1kw shared

    2. One 12 in ~1.5-2 cu ft sealed box with 1kw

    3. One 12 in ~2 cu ft box ported @ ~28Hz with 1kw

    4. Two 10's in 1-1.25 cu ft boxes (ea) sealed or ported @ ~28Hz with 1kw shared

    The amp will be the same amp, regardless of setup (1000x in sig)

    Goal: as locse to 130db as I can get while maintaining good SQ. I really would like it to extend down to at least 25Hz with not more than 3db loss.


  12. There isn't enough air apace for 12's. you could port a pair of 10's though?

    10's wont cut it. I had them, ditched them for 12's about 4 or 5 years ago.

    I used to run 15's exclusively, so it's already a tough sell with measly 12's, lol

    I can add a LITTLE more air space... but not much. If you've ever seen the trunk of a GTO, you'll understand.

    Why didn't your 10's work? What were they? What was their enclosure? What was the amp?

    Same model as my current 12's, in boxes about the same size, and the amp was my 10.0

    They just didn't hit as low or loud as I wanted.

    That's because your using new Eclipse stuff, Fi is a whole other league. The motor and coil are EXACTLY the same on sizes 10"-18", the only thing that changes is the cone and suspension. Larger subs getting "lower" is a misconception, it really depends on the enclosure. 8's play the same notes as 18's, the only difference is volume.

    The Eclipse's are the same way. The tens and twelves have the same motor, coil, and power ratings. And, yea, I'm aware that they can, technically, play the same notes, but in reality, not really. The only way you are going to hear a 20Hz signal (and not just the distortion of the speaker trying to play it) on a typical 8 is to have your ear almost on the speaker. That is not feasable. Plus, the industry standard for frequency response is +/- 3db

    And 10's in an optimized box will be WAY louder than 12's in a box being choked. Your problem is space. You need to design the biggest enclosure you can and then ask what to put in it.

    Maybe... but... my 12's still get louder and lower than the 10's. All I want is a noticable increase in volume. If I have to redisign the boxes to achieve it, so be it, but the fact there are some space constraints have to be included.


  13. The TU amps is can be bridged, you must use the outer terminals.

    The O's are where you hook the speaker wires

    OXXO

    OXXO

    Thanks for the reply!

    That's how I had the o-scope hooked up, and the power output was identical as if it was hooked up "unbridged". The amp also heated up very quickly (with just a scope, no speakers, on it). All my other amps work like expected when scoping them. It should also be important to note that this amp is BNIB, never hooked up to anything until the other night.


  14. There isn't enough air apace for 12's. you could port a pair of 10's though?

    10's wont cut it. I had them, ditched them for 12's about 4 or 5 years ago.

    I used to run 15's exclusively, so it's already a tough sell with measly 12's, lol

    I can add a LITTLE more air space... but not much. If you've ever seen the trunk of a GTO, you'll understand.

    Why didn't your 10's work? What were they? What was their enclosure? What was the amp?

    Same model as my current 12's, in boxes about the same size, and the amp was my 10.0

    They just didn't hit as low or loud as I wanted.


  15. There isn't enough air apace for 12's. you could port a pair of 10's though?

    10's wont cut it. I had them, ditched them for 12's about 4 or 5 years ago.

    I used to run 15's exclusively, so it's already a tough sell with measly 12's, lol

    I can add a LITTLE more air space... but not much. If you've ever seen the trunk of a GTO, you'll understand.


  16. 1. How old are you? 35

    2. When did you get into car audio? 1989

    3. How did you first get into car audio? Got a car

    4. Whats your favorite color? black

    5. Male or female? Male

    6. Your first Car? 1968 Chevy CE-10 Custom

    8. How did you find out about this site? Don't remember

    9. What was your first system? 8-track, audiovox 40w "power booster", audiovox 6x9's

    11. Were do you live? GA

    12. Whats you favorite car audio brand? SoundStream, Pre-2002

    15. Who is our hero in the car audio industry? Me

    16. Whats your dream system? Large

    17. Whats your dream car? Ferrari Testarossa, any year

    18. Whats the fastest car you have driven/ridden in? 1966 Chevelle - HIGHLY modded

    19. Were do you buy most of your car audio products? Used to be HiFi Buys in Macon - now, wherever

    20. What is your job? IT

    21. Whats your favorite saying?

    24. Whats your favorite brand of cars? Ferrari

    25. What do you like better, cars, vans, trucks, or suv's? Cars

    29. Whats is the most recent thing you have purchased? Food

    31. Who do you think is the most knowledgeable person on SSA? Me

    32. What is your personal best on the TL? and with what equipment? Never been on one

    33. SQ or SPL? why? SQ - loud is useless if it sounds like ass

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