Tenacious

What's special about it? Window line box with a center port firing rearward?

When you have to build the enclosure in one compartment and transfer the output to another, like a sealed trunk into the cabin of a vehicle. That is really the only reason that I can see for using a bp in a vehicle. We'll see what the experts say though... Then how come people in suv's do it with a wall? It's all one whole compartment there though. Not doubting you or saying I'm right just throwing that out there too since they're both different things. I've also heard that. Like how blow through and using the ski hole. From my understanding, the vehicle's cabin affects a bandpass less than a standard ported box. I haven't researched this myself, though.

Subs facing each other... way too much port area.. gross

Finally, an easy (easier) way to design more SQ-oriented 4th orders The link appears to be dead, though. Or the site is down.

are these your song's, open access, or are you selling someone else's work? Mixtapes are free.

Hopefully I'll have some sort of bass by then.

My name on other forums is Tenacious and I'm a noob

I sell flash drives with 270 bass enhanced songs for about $35 each.. It's mostly rap though, with a small amount of dubstep. Less slowed songs than decaf and a hell of a lot less Gucci Mane lol...

That's about the same room I have. You could run a pair of 12s or a single 15 at most. Don't forget to factor in electrical upgrades. Also, an enclosure if you don't have the tools to build one yourself.

May have to grab myself a HD8k if my budget allows

Like Senchez said, most of the stuff is in Lebanon with a couple of shows in Knoxville... Convenient since I live in Lebanon and go to school in Knoxville

If you do that, I recommend using pro audio 6.5s instead of 6x9s. Some PA speakers have a sealed back, so it's okay to put them in the same enclosure as a sub. Otherwise, you'll need separate chambers for each driver. I'm going to be doing a bike system soon.. although we're not even trying to add a subwoofer. Output is going to be minimal due to wind noise and the fact that you're open to the atmosphere.

3% is absolutely unacceptable, I'm sure your ears can pick up the difference... I was unaware people did "clamp tests" to measure the possible measure of power that can audibly be heard as a difference compared to the rating on the box. IF that were true, then clamp tests would be the best method. That means as along as the 9,600w amp can do +/- 2,000w, then it's fine. That's your implication. Seems irrational to me. I was being sarcastic more than anything else. The 3% that his test was off from the manufacturer's test seems very acceptable to me. 3% is 300 watts which isn't very likely to make much of a difference even on a termlab. I also understand the concern that you guys have, but there's really no application of a 12v amplifier that requires the precision of the power output number to be higher than this.

3% is absolutely unacceptable, I'm sure your ears can pick up the difference...

Naive and ignorant statement to assume that's a significant metric. Plenty of people with really stupid ideas and questionable knowledge do well in competitions, both SPL and SQ.But just think of how much louder you could be if you actually understood science and testing....... That's always debatable; there's no replacement for trial and error. Knowledge always help, but plenty of "smart" people do terrible in competition. troll status achieved bro. well done. I just talked with TommyK and he said that he doesn't even worry about the technical side of things... And I guarantee that he's louder than anyone posting their nonsense in this thread

Naive and ignorant statement to assume that's a significant metric. Plenty of people with really stupid ideas and questionable knowledge do well in competitions, both SPL and SQ.But just think of how much louder you could be if you actually understood science and testing....... That's always debatable; there's no replacement for trial and error. Knowledge always help, but plenty of "smart" people do terrible in competition.

Also, I may have missed it, but what is Taramp's warranty policy?

Look man, there's no way possible for any of us on here to do any sort of real testing on an amplifier. Testing an amp with a resistor bank still isn't even good for a general idea. These tests are %100 worthless. These various inaccurate tests don't help win world finals or anything lol If you guys need me, I'll be busy building loud things. It's fun, you all should try it some time.

I meant the amps in general, I'm thinking about ordering a HD8k.

How does the efficiency stack up against the common Korean boards that many of us are used to? According to the published specs, the efficiency at full tilt is around 75%, I was more curious about lower output levels. I know that MMATs uses a boosted rail technology which supposedly increases efficiency at lower output levels, and if I remember correctly I heard that Brazillian amps also have higher rail voltage.

I sense you starting to get into the troll realm considering you already said you had no reason to post on this thread anymore... I see all of this as pointless bickering at this point, the point has been proven for all parties. The point is, this test is neither pinpoint accurate or inaccurate to the point of being invalid. It was performed to give a general idea of amplifier power. And it does just that. Everyone can dance around that fact all that they want, but it's still true.

I sense butthurt

But the tech team said it's not accurate so it must not be

This is car audio, not quantum physics. You're still going off of this assumption that his tools are inaccurate. And by manufacturers spending tens of thousands on test equipment... You mean the buildhouse in Korea in this case, correct?

But, but, but, it didn't do rated. It has to be flawed.... I understand their view, and their concern is not legitimate in this case, in my opinion. The results may not be 100% precise, but they're accurate enough for the purpose they serve. If you require an amp test to be accurate within 10 watts for your personal use.... so be it. I don't. You're the only one name calling here... So you think it's just barely off? For one, the testing method is not consistent. Like others have stated before, it's used for TROUBLESHOOTING, not for proper power measurement. Second, did you know it was recently retested by the same person and now it's went fro 13.5 to 14.6v and gained 3,200w? Now it's over 10k clipped. People are "guessing" in that topic as to how much THD that is.. Bam- guessing.. that method of measuring power is for troubleshooting. For accurate results, testing must be consistent. The 2 tests are not consistent and not controlled due to human error and the lack of THD measurement. You can't state you obtained a certain amount of power without other factors. Tfade has not done anything wrong to defer his measurements. It's the lack of knowledge the audience has that concludes what they think they obtained from that information. The same thing goes for many SMD devices as well but don't get me started on that. So the measurements show a lack of output power.. Well.. that's not right.. Test again.. now we have massively increased power... Lack of consistency and other measurements. Tfade isn't trying to replace proper means of measuring with a low cost technique. He's basically just trying to see if the equipment holds true to it's ratings. The problem is messing with amps of this caliber is not easy because the higher the numbers go, the greater the inconsistency in his testing method. The audience should take THAT as a big potential problem that is hard to control. Even on low power, his method will net him closer to actual ratings but still not concrete enough because of a lack of tools and technique. A power rating consists of a lot more than just 1 power rating with a voltage and a THD rating and not even those 3 things have been met in sync in one test yet. Like i've said many times before, I defer to the manufacturer's testing themselves as they are more equipped for the task. The second test was to prove a point... To get the 10k that people claim out of the amp, it was clipped to hell and back. The first test was "around" but not exactly at the THD rating that the manufacturer gives. I guess we have to throw something on an amp dyno to make you guys happy.. lol