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  1. Wagonized

    Box options for a pair of lvl4 18's

    box is sub up ports back built out of either 1.5" material or 2x 3/4" material. Port is single 3/4" material. I suggest doing the baffle 2x3/4" and countersinking the woofers. external 49w X 23t X 24d internal 46w X 20t X 21d Port 20t X 5w X 14d 45s 3" wide 45s in 6 verticle corners Volume 11.18 cf - 0.40cf (woofers) - 0.31cf (45s) - 1.05 cf (port) 9.42 cf final Tuned to 34hz....4.21 cf per woofer CUTS LIST TOP AND BOTTOM (4) 49 X 24 SIDES (4) 21 X 20 FRONT (2) 49 X 20 BACK (4) 22 X 20 PORT (2) 20 X 14 45s (6) 20 X 3 dual 45 degree edges
  2. subs wont arrive for a couple days and im trying to get my enclosure done before they get here. whats the outside mounting diameter of the level 4 15s? thanks
  3. setup will be going in a 97 explorer ran off of a single american bass 500.1 @ 1 ohm...1250 watts per woofer. Objective....loud as chit, uncomfortable, cant breath, cant see, daily driving setup to demo at shows. Option A Sub up port back 10.62 cubes after all displacements 3 6" aeros @ 20 inches long each 30 hz tuning Option B Sub up port back 10.35 cubes after all displacements 4 6" aeros @ 20 inches long each 35 hz tuning I think option A will work very well but 30 hz tuning might miss a lot of songs apart from bass mekanik and the odd really low rap song. Any thoughts? thanks
  4. Im lookin for 2 15" recones for my shocker extreme motors. Had apx recones in there before which were somehow assembled wrong from the factory. If theres a number i could call to reach fi directly or if they could email me at chiefironbear@hotmail.com that would be great. Im hoping to have these by mid next week if possible. thanks
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    for all the blind sundown lovers "The Sundowns put down 2 less dB then the strapped PB's and put down 1507 Watts on a 15.8V system at 1.5Ohms actual load after rise." this was with a bank of (20) 8 volt batteries. In the same thread on canadian caraudio.com Yuli does confirm "you guys are jokes. did i not post on here that a z1 spanks a pair of sundownz like 3 months ago?"
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    i dont believe that even one bit. There are very very few amps in the world including elite level amps that can hang with the 4kw on a 16 volt unlimited battery system. What I dont understand is if these amps are so good and so cheap how come nobody is loud with them yet? Theyve been out for over a year now havent they? Why dont you see extreme vehicles running 100 sundown amps instead of 10 or 20 higher priced ones that apparently put out less power?
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    ill be worried when someone beats my certified score with sundown ridiculous and illogical? the test numbers posted for the sundown 1500d were done so by someone on THEIR payroll. Similar to how the DD Z1 puts out 6000 rms on soundpressure.com. Except morons actually believe it because the sundown amp is a lot more affordable. A strapped pair of 1500d's has been tested to be 2.5db below a z1. And generally the z1s are known to put out a real world wattage in the 2000-3000 watt range depending on voltage drop, box rise etc. So in REALITY which amp is better dollar per watt? Sundown amps might be decent for beginners but I dont understand what their claim to fame is about running at 0.5 ohm daily. There are probably 100 other amps in the world that can do this no problem. And make more power. If you want to buy sundown go ahead....but dont pick up a lump of chit and try to tell people its gold. numbers, links, video....noone here is jsut about talk. provide proof, or shut up. two people have posted either pics or vids of the sundown porduct doing it's thing. where is this z1 beating the strapped 1500s? speaking of what you know nothing about, and or rumors, will only get your e-ass rung through a ringer. the man has spoken and provided proof. what do you have? wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee why would they take pics and video of a test that wasnt even close? And one that confirmed what was already 99% believe that the sundown amp doesnt put out anywhere near the power claimed. If i raced a stock vw bug against a corvette would I have to take pics and video for you to believe the corvette one? Id be willing to test 8 sundown 1500d's against my 4 memphis 4kw amps on a limited battery system but that would be a waste of time for me because I know my score would go down. But id be sure to take countless pics and videos so you guys believed it. The person that did the test by the way was Yuli Shumsky (sp?) from ontario canada. Hes been finals a few times now. Termlab doesnt lie....and let me tell you 2.5 db difference isnt just a couple hundred watts. why would you take video/pictures? proof. plain and simple. nothing more, nothing less. is it really that hard to understand? and to use your racing analogy, look how many videos are on youtube, ebaum and whatever hosting site you can think of, of modified cars whooping up on stock ones. and it's the kids in the modified ones doing the filming. memphis 4kws? at least pick an amp that lives to tell the tale afterwards. i'd wager, strongly, the 8 sundowns would put a very large ass whooping on the 4kws. how do i know? first, i work for memphis dealer. EVERY, and i mean EVERY 4kw we have sold, has gone in for warranty work at least twice. and while most have probably not heard of yuli shumsky, i work with james herren. street a world champ 3 years ago. he lost world finals 2 years ago due to, GASP, memphis 4kws dieing on him. he has a FULL memphis sponsorship, and won't touch a memphis product. he had 4 4kws before they were available to the public. each one died, again, at least twice. one from jsut hooking it up. the only chance the memphis has is at 16volts+. and even then, the sundowns can run there as well.... yep, you take your memphis stuff. i'll take the sundown. and yep, the termlab doesn't lie. by then again, you have yet to provide anything, anywhere, other then words to back up your claims. jacob has posted what his amp will do. let's see what the z1 can. so put up or shut up. don't diss something if you can't provide proof of it's asswhooping. i mean hell, if the z1 really did that, and you post proof, you might just inspire jacob to take sundown to an even higher level. and how many times does jacob have to answer the question about loyd and payroll? and who in the fudge ever heard of anybody on caraudio.com payroll? maybe your living in a cave. that is such absolute horsechit, lol. thanks for the laugh of the day bro. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee What I found humurous is that stevew007 pulled a 151.2 with 2x 9510's and 2x 1500D's strapped. At the FX DBDrag, they were amazed that "Rob V.o" pulled a 152.4 with 6k and 2 9512's. Looks to me that he should have been atleast 3db above with more cone and double power. if you ever competed more than once youd see that doubling your power doesnt gain you as much as it does on paper there chief. Especially on one batt. Off 2 nsb 90s? Id like to see this happen. whatever battery you choose. james's strapped 4kws off an eagle picher were junk. not a weak amp by any means, but complete junk compared to what he's run both past and present....(of course now he's moved on to real power, both under the hood and for amps) off a 12 volt system, the 4kws aren't all that. four 4kws vs 8 1500ds, and 12 volts. i'll take the sundown. not only that, the 4kws might not live to tell the story, at least IME. so maybe a very large ass whooping is a bit much, but i'd still take the sundowns. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 4kw will only blow up if you dip well below 9 volts to them by the way. Plenty of guys use them on 12 volts with no problems. Some even run 4 per 12 volt battery and have no problems. And obviously at 16 volts with a ton of batteries the sundown stands no chance...4kw would molest it.
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    also lastly those who keep mentioning Canadian car audio. CCA is the biggest joke of a forum now its not even funny. Rick the owner is a money hungry bitch who cant even let a thread bloom when theres 2 differring opinions within it. Let alone put down his beloved sponsors. Hes banning all westerners on his site. Which I have in writing from him by the way.
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    Neither Loyd nor Sean is on the Sundown payroll. Both of them purchased their amplifiers and are not and were not paid by me to do any testing. Testing was done of their own accord. I have no clue where the rumor that they work for me came from. Wagonized OWNED lol VIDEO: http://www.sundownaudio.com/misc/CIMG1519.AVI Wagonized OWNED again lol I see a partern forming here LOL that pattern that is forming is that ull believe anything ur told to sleep better at night knowing you saved some money buying a cheaper amp that puts out just as much power. Ever tested it yourself? I highly suggest you test it yourself or have someone you know personally and trust test them. Ive asked Yuli several questions over the years about X amp vs Y amp and hes always been straight up with me. I could sell you a $200 amp that says it makes 10k rms you'd be on cloud 9 then. Do you even compete or do you just quote what other people say and add one word comments?
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    Theres only 3 people that I can think of that actually run DD amps out here. I wouldn't say the whole west coast is "drinking the DD koolaid". Well all im saying is there is a very strong DD following out there. And Wagonized is also a friend of The A Team from CCA which is a DD dealer IIRC. ive met clay aka the A team once at a show a few weekends back. Ive never bought anything from him. Ill support DD because they're good products but even then DD bullchits their power numbers in some instances aka soundpressure.com I dont run DD amps by the way. Although if I did run z1s I think id be louder than I am now for what its worth. Unless you live in a cave the last few years youd realize that theres a strong DD following across the world. Because DD sets the most records in SPL out of any company. How many records does sunnnnnndooooownnn have? In any organization? Even keeping in mind you should be able to afford 3 sundowns for the price of a z1 they still dont put up good numbers. Im not sure what you're looking for here. You make a cheap amp...that puts out decent power for the dollar. But doesnt put out the power you guys claim and does not come close to comparing agains the elite amps out there today. Take it for what it is...beginner/budget gear.
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    ridiculous and illogical? the test numbers posted for the sundown 1500d were done so by someone on THEIR payroll. Similar to how the DD Z1 puts out 6000 rms on soundpressure.com. Except morons actually believe it because the sundown amp is a lot more affordable. A strapped pair of 1500d's has been tested to be 2.5db below a z1. And generally the z1s are known to put out a real world wattage in the 2000-3000 watt range depending on voltage drop, box rise etc. So in REALITY which amp is better dollar per watt? Sundown amps might be decent for beginners but I dont understand what their claim to fame is about running at 0.5 ohm daily. There are probably 100 other amps in the world that can do this no problem. And make more power. If you want to buy sundown go ahead....but dont pick up a lump of chit and try to tell people its gold. Neither Loyd nor Sean is on the Sundown payroll. Both of them purchased their amplifiers and are not and were not paid by me to do any testing. Testing was done of their own accord. I have no clue where the rumor that they work for me came from. Who tested the 1500Ds vs the Z1? I don't know about that test nor have I seen it posted until you mentioned it. Link would be nice. I suppose you are from the Canadian Car Audio forum where they love to hate on Sundown with little to no facts. Look around and you will be seeing good numbers from Sundown guys in the lanes. There already are several guys in the high 150s and I posted as such on the Canadian forum... some guys put the results down since they weren't "DB Drag" but were MECA, nSPL, etc. Sure... DD has more records, and they should! They are a bigger company that has been around longer and have more people running their gear... that is a no brainer. Anyhow... whether you think the product is good or not has no bearing on the reality that it is a fine product and I have a slew of satisfied customers who have tested their amps themselves and made up their minds. correct me if im wrong...Lloyd is or was on the caraudio.com payroll. which is or was sponsored by sundown audio? ridiculous and illogical? the test numbers posted for the sundown 1500d were done so by someone on THEIR payroll. Similar to how the DD Z1 puts out 6000 rms on soundpressure.com. Except morons actually believe it because the sundown amp is a lot more affordable. A strapped pair of 1500d's has been tested to be 2.5db below a z1. And generally the z1s are known to put out a real world wattage in the 2000-3000 watt range depending on voltage drop, box rise etc. So in REALITY which amp is better dollar per watt? Sundown amps might be decent for beginners but I dont understand what their claim to fame is about running at 0.5 ohm daily. There are probably 100 other amps in the world that can do this no problem. And make more power. If you want to buy sundown go ahead....but dont pick up a lump of chit and try to tell people its gold. numbers, links, video....noone here is jsut about talk. provide proof, or shut up. two people have posted either pics or vids of the sundown porduct doing it's thing. where is this z1 beating the strapped 1500s? speaking of what you know nothing about, and or rumors, will only get your e-ass rung through a ringer. the man has spoken and provided proof. what do you have? wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee why would they take pics and video of a test that wasnt even close? And one that confirmed what was already 99% believe that the sundown amp doesnt put out anywhere near the power claimed. If i raced a stock vw bug against a corvette would I have to take pics and video for you to believe the corvette one? Id be willing to test 8 sundown 1500d's against my 4 memphis 4kw amps on a limited battery system but that would be a waste of time for me because I know my score would go down. But id be sure to take countless pics and videos so you guys believed it. The person that did the test by the way was Yuli Shumsky (sp?) from ontario canada. Hes been finals a few times now. Termlab doesnt lie....and let me tell you 2.5 db difference isnt just a couple hundred watts.
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    sundowns 1500 vs kicker 1500

    ridiculous and illogical? the test numbers posted for the sundown 1500d were done so by someone on THEIR payroll. Similar to how the DD Z1 puts out 6000 rms on soundpressure.com. Except morons actually believe it because the sundown amp is a lot more affordable. A strapped pair of 1500d's has been tested to be 2.5db below a z1. And generally the z1s are known to put out a real world wattage in the 2000-3000 watt range depending on voltage drop, box rise etc. So in REALITY which amp is better dollar per watt? Sundown amps might be decent for beginners but I dont understand what their claim to fame is about running at 0.5 ohm daily. There are probably 100 other amps in the world that can do this no problem. And make more power. If you want to buy sundown go ahead....but dont pick up a lump of chit and try to tell people its gold.
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