Justinc443

I know there have been a lot of these but I just wanted to see what you guys thought. I was deciding between the q or bl for the trunk of my Camry and the biggest box I could build was 3.04 cubic feet tuned to 33hz with 9.3in per foot of port area(6in precision port). I went with a Q because I read they worked well in smaller enclosures. I do want to get loud but I figured the Q would do that better just because of the limited space and I figured the BLs had to really breathe. And when I say loud i don't mean like competitions or anything just at the rated 1500rms. Do you guys think I made the right choice for that enclosure?

Sorry! Meant aq2200. Just cought that haha yea and my stinger volt meter should be here sometime next week so i can really watch my voltage until i get a new battery Not really the best tool for that. Rather slow to update so you'll miss the drops which sounds like the reason you bought it. yea i already saw that reading in other places but the D'Amore/SMD or whatever brand its considered to be isn't out yet and i kind of need it now. But its better then nothing especially just for those really long notes like at the beginning of hypnotized so i can see how much I need to turn my gain down until I can continue to upgrade my electrical.

Sorry! Meant aq2200. Just cought that haha yea and my stinger volt meter should be here sometime next week so i can really watch my voltage until i get a new battery

With working on it everyday after school until it got dark, about a week

Thanks man and no i just rolled on some black matte paint

I ended up getting suprised today. The Q wasnt suppose to be here until Friday but it showed up today. Just got done wiring it up and everything and wow. Only on half of the power it can take its already as loud as the 2 CVR 12s except for its hitting lows iv never heard. Now i just can't wait until i can at least get a new battery and install my new amp to see what it can do.

Just throwing this out there. Just picked up a aq2200 off their website. They have a 15% off sell goin on. So let the electrical upgrades begin

Now I'll be jealous of that mechman. Right now all my electrical is stock but I'm probably going to invest into a kinetic battery first just because my current battery is a pos Yeah, a kinetic or xs power is definitially in your future. Btw: when you go to do the big 3, get your self some crimps and one of these. There's no need to spend 80-100 dollars on a pro crimper your gonna use 6 times. http://www.amazon.com/Pico-0685t-Lug-Crimping-Tool/dp/B001QRS88C/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt There's a little technique to useing it, but you'll figure it out- just buy a few extra crimps to practice on. Some might reccomend sodering as well as crimping and I can't Argue with that, but I just crimped all of mine and have had no problems yet (3 or 4 thousand miles). This isn't really relevant to this post but I figured a little extra info wouldn't hurt Most definitely. $20 sounds much better then $100

Now I'll be jealous of that mechman. Right now all my electrical is stock but I'm probably going to invest into a kinetic battery first just because my current battery is a pos

In good time lol

Yea I was looking at the saz 1500 buts its pretty pricey for the power compared to the crescendo

Thanks for the input. I may be able to do that when I get a different vehicle in the future but for now the biggest box I can fit is around 3.5 cubes (yes I realize I said I could only get 3.04 cubes out of this box but I found another way to get some space)

Yea I was thinking the same thing as far as the clean signal goes and my q does have the cooling option too. But really that is the only amp I have found for that price that puts out that kind of power but any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

It has nothing to do with no love for the Q. Personally if I had to choose it'd be a no brainer to take it over a BL. The reason you see responses like that though is the classic misconception that most people have. Q = SQ, SQ <= shitty sound, BL = Loud, My wants are LOUD and sounding good so I must need the Q. Then the question becomes Q or BL and when that is asked it is always asked by someone who doesn't know (otherwise the answer is obvious) and I have yet to meet someone who doesn't know that the Q is better for. There are exceptions but they just haven't surfaced on this site yet. The decision needs to be based on enclosure and goals. Then it's really easy. In this case that screams BL. I'm just curious on your opinion, if you were in my place and had one Q 15, how would you design your box? Perhaps you didn't read my comments. First off you design a system, not just a box. Knowing nothing about the rest of then what I'd have I can't really answer. And of course, more importantly I seriously doubt my goals and yours would line up. Like not even close. That being said, if I had 3cuft and someone gave me a Q15 if you were wondering what I'd do with it, well I'd sell it and buy something that fit my goals better. That would probably be enough for a 12" Q. And you bought it already so why ask more options from others but your own ears now? There will always be upgrades in the future so what's wrong with gaining some knowledge?

Right now I only have a rockford fosgate R750-1D but I haven't exactly figured out what to upgrade to yet. I was leaning to the crescendo bc2000 but another question is can a q actually take 1500 daily or should I run less

As long as my "luxury family vehicle" can hit some lows better then cvrs that were tuned really high, ill be just fine lol

It has nothing to do with no love for the Q. Personally if I had to choose it'd be a no brainer to take it over a BL. The reason you see responses like that though is the classic misconception that most people have. Q = SQ, SQ <= shitty sound, BL = Loud, My wants are LOUD and sounding good so I must need the Q. Then the question becomes Q or BL and when that is asked it is always asked by someone who doesn't know (otherwise the answer is obvious) and I have yet to meet someone who doesn't know that the Q is better for. There are exceptions but they just haven't surfaced on this site yet. The decision needs to be based on enclosure and goals. Then it's really easy. In this case that screams BL. I'm just curious on your opinion, if you were in my place and had one Q 15, how would you design your box?

It has nothing to do with no love for the Q. Personally if I had to choose it'd be a no brainer to take it over a BL. The reason you see responses like that though is the classic misconception that most people have. Q = SQ, SQ <= shitty sound, BL = Loud, My wants are LOUD and sounding good so I must need the Q. Then the question becomes Q or BL and when that is asked it is always asked by someone who doesn't know (otherwise the answer is obvious) and I have yet to meet someone who doesn't know that the Q is better for. There are exceptions but they just haven't surfaced on this site yet. The decision needs to be based on enclosure and goals. Then it's really easy. In this case that screams BL. Well I have to say its a bit too late considering the sub will be here Friday lol, but hopefully the Q will do just fine satisfying me. Like I said its just for a daily driver and I'm not one of these people to drive around full blast all the time but anyway I guess I'll just let you guys know how it turns out.

I was wondering the same thing. I personally just don't think enough people have given them a shot as a daily sub.

The cvrs were tuned that high because that what the kicker app or whatever I looked at said to tune too. The box for the Q is tuned down to 32.7. That's why I got the Q is because I really didn't like the playable range of the cvrs. I really like the lower smoothe bass and that's why I went with Q. Not only that I'm sure with a 1500rms rating it can get pretty loud. Plus I didn't like the peakiness of the cvrs. There was only a few notes I could hit loud so I wanted to try and get that flatter response over more notes and not just hit one higher note extremely hard. Thanks for your input

Wasn't the drivers problem. Most people never compare apples to apples. I've never seen that comparison although I know where that would be the case, but not in your installation. General rule doesn't exist. Some claim some rule of thumb, but it is always wrong. I think you modeled them wrong if you saw lower machs... I'm pretty sure the lower machs were correct but I'm not 100% but anyways my last set up was two 12in cvrs in a 3.5 cubic foot box tuned to 37hz only getting 500 watts between the two of them. Lol. So I'm sure this setup will sound better then those even though at first it will only be getting around 800 watts until I get some money for a crescendo bc2k

It was for a 15 sorry about that. And when I said better I should have clarified and said lower or less port noise. Also thanks for your input with some facts behind it. That's what I was looking for.

Answer is the same 99.999999999% of the time and it's never the Q. Port sizes should NEVER be referenced to box size. That is not at all how to choose a port size. The ONLY parameter that matters is air velocity. Completely wrong assumption. The BL will do better in your space for your goals, by a lot. I also forgot to mention another big reason I picked the Q is because my last setup really lacked the low notes. Like no low notes at all. And everywhere I read from people who had the Q and the BL, some even at the same time so they were able to test both, said the Q did this much better. They also said the audible loudness was no different what so ever except for the Q could really get those low notes, but they could see different numbers on the term lab. So I'm not so sure that your right that I made the wrong decision. Also why should port size never be referenced to box size when you have to have more port area the bigger the box hence the general rule of what some say 12in to 16in per foot for slot port and 9in to 13in for aero ports. Also the vent Mach was better with the Q for my enclosure. But just a question have you ever listened to both the Q and bl in the same enclosure? (Also with the same power to each) If you already knew the answer to your question, why did you ask? Is there anything wrong with hearing more opinions? I figured maybe someone might have had a different experience. Anything wrong with that?

Answer is the same 99.999999999% of the time and it's never the Q. Port sizes should NEVER be referenced to box size. That is not at all how to choose a port size. The ONLY parameter that matters is air velocity. Completely wrong assumption. The BL will do better in your space for your goals, by a lot. I also forgot to mention another big reason I picked the Q is because my last setup really lacked the low notes. Like no low notes at all. And everywhere I read from people who had the Q and the BL, some even at the same time so they were able to test both, said the Q did this much better. They also said the audible loudness was no different what so ever except for the Q could really get those low notes, but they could see different numbers on the term lab. So I'm not so sure that your right that I made the wrong decision. Also why should port size never be referenced to box size when you have to have more port area the bigger the box hence the general rule of what some say 12in to 16in per foot for slot port and 9in to 13in for aero ports. Also the vent Mach was better with the Q for my enclosure. But just a question have you ever listened to both the Q and bl in the same enclosure? (Also with the same power to each)