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  1. Posted

    So are you considering the eighteen now? If if so I highly suggest that you rethink that idea.

    Seems I will with everyone reccomending 2 12's. Now I need to decide which 12's

    IMO you dont need rear speakers, go with a good 6 1/2'' component set (adaptor plates available) infront with a 2 channel amp.

    Ok, figured out how to put those 2 front speakers in myself today and they sound much better than the stock that was in there. I'm really set on getting a sub in first, then re-upgrading to a comp set now. Good idea or no?

    2 Gcons 12", a good ported box (@32 Hz), a single set of comp speakers, no rear speakers at all, and 2 amps : one for the comp set and one for the bass.

    Take a look at the sundown SA subs too. I don't remember their price though.

    RF amps are good, but expensive. You can find cheaper amps like Audiopipe, some Clarion,...A good 2 channels, or a small 4 channel bridged.

    I personnally like my Sundown amps, but they are not cheap as the Audiopipe !!!

    Don't go the cheap route on speakers : you need a serious set of comps. Try to listen to some if you can find a shop with some on display.

    Amplifiers : with your total budget, you need to go cheap, or used. There are good deals everywhere.

    2 12" will be easier to fit in your trunk. You can make them fire through the cabin, but I don't know how is your car. (to lazy to google it !). Forget the 18" sub. It's not necessary.

    don't forget the money for all the wires, connectors, accessories,...

    Good luck OP

    I will do what you said for the comp speakers after I get the subs taken care of. Already put time into the speakers and they sound pretty damn good. Im a little confused on how amps work and always was. Lets say I have 2 subs that both have 800RMS do I need a 2 channel sub that is 1600watt rated?

    Take a serious look at the classified section. You can find very good deals there.

    2 12" Fi bl would be fantastic for you. You can get them and later find a powerful amp for them. But start small on amplifier power.

    Find out what they cal "big3" : you will need to do that, before adding any battery.

    Yeah I will def be doing the big3, I do remember that from years ago. But I have people reccomending me 3 different subs and don't know what to go with haha. I will be doing 2 12's ported.

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  2. Posted · Edited by kegann

    So the icon as in this

    http://store.soundso...-subwoofer.html

    Gcon

    http://store.soundso...-subwoofer.html (only goes to 15 inch though..?)

    Will def read more up on these, as they will be a little easier on the wallet. Heres a basic goal list if I wanted to go for a good system and upgrade as money came in. I will be keeping the H/U and door speakers im installing tommorrow just because they are bettter than anything and will allow me to atleast get my sub going first. Now as far as a amp running the fi SSD. It's 1000w RMS

    http://outlet.crutch...bdCP.html?cc=01

    I remember rockford fosgate being a great brand and these seems like the cheapest 1000watt RMS amp with a good name. Can anyone give me any more recommendations? This is what I would like to get to get me going with bass and with one of the H/U's I have right now.

    Now down the line if I upgrade my front and rear speakers this is what I was leaning towards.

    Front door speakers

    http://www.crutchfie...572.html?tp=105

    Rear Speakers

    http://www.crutchfie...-T16.html?tp=95

    amp to power 4 speakers

    http://www.crutchfie...5.html?tp=35782

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  3. Posted

    Generally speaking, an 18" will have more cone area then two 12".

    Your head-unit only has one set of rca outputs: "2V rear/sub selectable preamp outputs," which means if you use the outputs for the subwoofer, then you can't really amp your front speakers.

    You could use the single output as rear, then use another device to split the signal for highs and low, but I wouldn't bother.

    Personally I would want to amp my front speakers, so I would end up buying another head unit.

    With a depth of 35.5", 17" height, and 40" width, and using 0.75" MDF material for the box, you have around 11 ft^3 to work with.

    Fi BL 18" requires 5-8 ft^3 for a ported enclosure, two ssd12 would require 3.5-5ft^3 total, and one ssd 18" would require 6-10ft^3.

    Brand new the 18" bl would be around $334 ish, two 12" ssd $400, and $254 for a single 18" ssd.

    I have no experience with trunk cars, but I would try an 18" ssd upfiring, and with the money saved I would replace the head-unit, front speakers, and get a nice 500w-1000w amp for the sub.

    If you aren't comfortable woodworking, and don't know anyone around you, you can get a box built online, but the shipping is hefty. Check out the vendor section here for box builders.

    Awesome information and I really appreciate it. I forgot to mention I have a 5-6 year old panasonic H/U i used with my first setup and it has 2 RCA outputs. I dont have a wiring harness for it, but I just looked on ebay and can get one for 3.99...

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-d44xDQfTsjo/p_133C3401/Panasonic-MXE-CQ-C3401U.html

    Would this be better than the sony I have?(I can still return the sony). But it doesn't have a usb or aux input which I def would love. Im guessing I just need to man up and buy a newer H/U with 2 outputs. Can you point me in the right direction for 5x7 speakers? Or a site explaining things so I can make my own decision and learn things. I thought if I power my speakers with an amp along with my sub Ill need to buy batteries.

    And Im sure i can find a woodworker in the knox area that could build one. Shipping is outragous on heavy things.

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  4. Posted

    Generally speaking, an 18" will have more cone area then two 12".

    Your head-unit only has one set of rca outputs: "2V rear/sub selectable preamp outputs," which means if you use the outputs for the subwoofer, then you can't really amp your front speakers.

    You could use the single output as rear, then use another device to split the signal for highs and low, but I wouldn't bother.

    Personally I would want to amp my front speakers, so I would end up buying another head unit.

    With a depth of 35.5", 17" height, and 40" width, and using 0.75" MDF material for the box, you have around 11 ft^3 to work with.

    Fi BL 18" requires 5-8 ft^3 for a ported enclosure, two ssd12 would require 3.5-5ft^3 total, and one ssd 18" would require 6-10ft^3.

    Brand new the 18" bl would be around $334 ish, two 12" ssd $400, and $254 for a single 18" ssd.

    I have no experience with trunk cars, but I would try an 18" ssd upfiring, and with the money saved I would replace the head-unit, front speakers, and get a nice 500w-1000w amp for the sub.

    If you aren't comfortable woodworking, and don't know anyone around you, you can get a box built online, but the shipping is hefty. Check out the vendor section here for box builders.

    Awesome information and I really appreciate it. I forgot to mention I have a 5-6 year old panasonic H/U i used with my first setup and it has 2 RCA outputs. I dont have a wiring harness for it, but I just looked on ebay and can get one for 3.99...

    http://www.crutchfield.com/S-d44xDQfTsjo/p_133C3401/Panasonic-MXE-CQ-C3401U.html

    Would this be better than the sony I have?(I can still return the sony). But it doesn't have a usb or aux input which I def would love. Im guessing I just need to man up and buy a newer H/U with 2 outputs. Can you point me in the right direction for 5x7 speakers? Or a site explaining things so I can make my own decision and learn things. I thought if I power my speakers with an amp along with my sub Ill need to buy batteries.

    And Im sure i can find a woodworker in the knox area that could build one. Shipping is outragous on heavy things.

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  5. Posted

    Two 12" SSDs would be a good option as well.

    Which would you choose if you was wanting what I want with what I have? I def want good low bass also.

    Two SSDs will be easier to fit into the trunk and have more cone area. I've owned both and they are both excellent drivers.

    Thanks for the quick and helpful replys man. Would you reccomend ported or sealed box? I'm pretty sure sealed is for sound quality and ported is for loudness, but could have changed with how they make subs since then. Also my area literally has no car audio places and I need to find a box, built specifically for the subs. I'm sure their are some people reccomended on here?

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  8. Posted · Edited by kegann

    An 18 in the trunk of a Altima? A fifteen is gonna be close to a stretch.. What are your "MAX" dimensions you're willing to give up as far as trunk space???

    I'm willing to give up the whole trunk, this will be a car to drive to work and college or out with friends.

    List a budget.

    Measure the trunk space yourself, I for one don't own a 96 Altima.

    Your goal of loud bass can easily be accomplished with the mentioned 18" Fi bl, but don't expect the stereo as a whole to sound that great. You wouldn't buy an lcd hd 1080p television only to hook it up to a vhs player.

    From the back of the back seats to the lip the trunk closes on is 35 & 1/2 inches. Vertical is 17 inches. The smallest area from side to side is 40 inches, and ofcourse is wider closer the the lip of the trunk closing.

    Which aspect are you compairing the a vhs player, the speakers or the H/U? What would you reccomend to make it less like that? I do want to understand what they are saying, I dont want my head to just be vibrating. I would just want more vibrating than crisp sound quality.

    Budget I would like to keep to around 600 if at all possible. But dont mind more because I can buy peices at a time.

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  9. Posted

    I used to read up on car audio back when I was 17-18 and had a couple tens and decent speakers in an S10 and loved car audio. Sold that got a camaro and found out about FI speakers and planned on getting some. Went thru hard times never happened and here I am. I have a 96 nissan Altima. I can finally put some type of system in it and get my audio addiction fixed that I've missed for years. My car is not a thing of beauty and I plan on driving it for only for another 2 years or so.

    I got this aftermarket cd player put in. I know its sony xplod and people make fun of it, but it was a decent price and had an AUX and usb connection. It beats the hell out of the manufacturer cassette player.

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-Xplod-CDX-GT40UW-Car-CD-Receiver-with-Front-USB-Port/17127948

    I will be having these speakers put in front doors tommorrow. Got them for 25 bucks. I can return these though.

    http://www.scosche.com/car-audio/product/2215

    Now I need opinions with those 2 things and the car I have what I should get for the cheapest amount of money. Most important thing to me is bass. I like loud and bass, not so much on sound quality as long as it isnt crackling. I was guessing a 15'' or 18'' BL since this will be a daily driver. Also will be in a ported box. I would like opinions on this, esp if an 18'' in a ported box would even fit the trunk of a 96 altima, what amp I need to get to power the sub, if I'm on the right track, and any other opinions.

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  10. Posted

    #1 Rule: Never Buy A Prefab Box. Custom Made Or DIY Only.

    You Could Probably Just Go With One 15 BL With That Amount Of Space In A 3 - 3.5 Cubic Foot Box.

    The Whole 2 12" Or 2 10" Chit Is Just Getting Old, And With The Amount Of Output A Fi BL 15" Produces, Especially In A Car Such As That, One 15" Is More Than Enough. It's Always Badass When You're Flexing More And Being Louder Than A Guy With 2 12"'s Or 4 10"'s. Of Course, I'm Talking About People That Run Mainstream Audio Too. A Run-In With 2 Ten Inch Adire Brahmas Would Be Your Worst Nightmare, Even As Good As Fi Is. :poop::poop::poop:

    haha i know not to buy prefab which is why im here... I posted the links for an idea on what the trunk looks like... If I could do 1 15 I would be happy with that to... Im not set on anything I just want something good.

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  11. Posted · Edited by kegann

    Alright Im in a bit of a dilema. I cant for the life of me find someone to build me a GOOD ported box for a 1993 camaro. Im wanting to get 2 fi BL 12's and a ported box made for their specs...but I can only find prefab boxes and their still just SEALED.... So I got reffed to you guys and im hoping you can help me out here. Now I know unless you guys already done a build for a 1993-xx camaro you will need measurements...just try to lemme know exactly what to measure.

    http://www.subthump.com/acamarowell.htm

    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2303185

    Now I want it ported and subthumps are all sealed...just putting it here to give you an idea of what the trunk looks like and diff builds.

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  12. Posted

    if you plan on going sealed, you need the Q's

    Well thats the thing, I would like to go ported, but I need to find a design/dimensions for a 93-xx camaro trunk if i want to. Also,depending on the reviews I get of the Q'S i might just go ported.

    Do you think I would be satisfied with 2 12Q'S in a sealed box? I want it to beat pretty damn hard and still have good sound quality. It will be a daily driver but I prob will never max it out besides every once in a while.

    Also you are right it seems.

    1 ohm power 2200 x 1

    So if I got 2 QS thatd be 1100watts per sub at 1ohm right? I would only need 2 of those if I got BLs

    i wouldnt recommend running bl's on 2200rms IF you get them, since their still 1000rms subs.

    it sounds like the Q's are for you

    Is this your first system? what other subs/amps have you had

    Wow im a tard, i ment BTLS but I wont be getting those so im fine. This is my 2nd system, first system I paid 600 bucks for 2 10s and a chitty ass amp in a s10 truck years ago...(which suprisingly beat good for 600 bucks). But I guess ill be going with the Q's

    Also sniper, I know how to measure but your missing the point. Heres an idea how my trunk looks cept this model is one behind my camaro.

    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2303185

    But ill get some measurements for you and would love for ya to give me a design

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  13. Posted

    if you plan on going sealed, you need the Q's

    Well thats the thing, I would like to go ported, but I need to find a design/dimensions for a 93-xx camaro trunk if i want to. Also,depending on the reviews I get of the Q'S i might just go ported.

    Do you think I would be satisfied with 2 12Q'S in a sealed box? I want it to beat pretty damn hard and still have good sound quality. It will be a daily driver but I prob will never max it out besides every once in a while.

    Also you are right it seems.

    1 ohm power 2200 x 1

    So if I got 2 QS thatd be 1100watts per sub at 1ohm right? I would only need 2 of those if I got BLs

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  14. Posted

    Alright Ive heard nothing but good things about you guys, and going to start saving up for my system and plan it out now. I have a 1993 camaro. Now my biggest dilema is my trunk, they are fudgeed in camaros.. I want a system with a little of box SPL and LOUD SOUND QUALITY... I want it to hit pretty damn hard and hit lows...but I also want decent sound quality. My choice right now is either between 2 12 BLS or Q's...

    Now if I can find anyone to build me a box or give me a design with dimensions for a camaro trunk ill go ported. But for now im stuck buying a box from these guys which only come sealed with 1.0ft per sub for 12s.

    http://www.subthump.com/acamarowell.htm

    And what I currently have chosen to run with these are

    http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseac...Product_ID=1078

    http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseac...Product_ID=4464

    1 extra battery and big 3 upgrade

    http://www.kinetikaudio.com/hc1400.asp

    2 of these(1 per sub)

    http://www.audioque.com/aq/AQamps2200D.htm

    So help me decide guys

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  15. Posted

    Go for the 2 12"... They will make for an easier install and will actually have proper enclosure... If I remember correctly, Camaro's don't have room for a box the right size for a 15 to mount on them unless you have them tilted forewards like in those pics which would be a lot harder to make a box for than just 2 12" facing up....

    yeah ive decided on the 2 12s, will be ordering in 2 weeks :D

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  18. Posted

    At that point if you can get the space, then a standard 2 magnet BTL with only the pole chamfer would work well. No need to spend the extra $$$ without having more power... and the needed electrical upgrades to support it as well.

    Thanks,

    Scott

    So you saying that amp wont fully power it? I want to fully load it, I will upgrade the amp if need be.

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  21. Posted

    I wouldn't use a BTL in IB...ever...

    Like I said in the other thread, if you actually want decent SQ, go with a Q. Or re-evaluate what you want.

    in IB? Whats IB? Also I did look at the Q's. And as in decent SQ I mean I can understand what they are saying since it will be mostly rap I listen to. Still think I should use Q?

    Also jimj, since that guy said he knows for a fact 2 18s can fit in a camaro, would 1 18 be ideal compaired to lets say a 12? Im not enirely sure what size difference makes but I always thought the bigger the sub the better the low bass?

    Thanks for answering my questions J

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  23. Posted

    Thanks for the tip bro. I did not realize that the forums werent all for these specific subs. So I made the post again HERE because this is for the specific subs. Sorry you had to click the same post twice.

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  24. Posted

    Hello, I plan to buy some subs from here. I have a 93 camaro. Im wanting a very loud system with decent SQ. Ive been told to just get 1 10 in a custom box on another forum, but was hoping an emloyee would help me more. I was planning on getting 1 BTL 10/12/15 but dont know which would be best given the room in a camaro trunk. I will be powering it with this

    http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseac...product_id=4200

    And my friend who has I think 2 rockford fosgate t1 15's, dont know the amp powering them. In a chevy tahoe. He swears by rocford and im wanting a system that will be just as loud, if not louder then his.(least thats what im hoping for)

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  25. Posted

    Hello, I plan to buy some subs from here. I have a 93 camaro. Im wanting a very loud system with decent SQ. Ive been told to just get 1 10 in a custom box on another forum, but was hoping an emloyee would help me more. I was planning on getting 1 BTL 10/12/15 but dont know which would be best given the room in a camaro trunk. I will be powering it with this

    http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseac...product_id=4200

    And my friend who has I think 2 rockford fosgate t1 15's, dont know the amp powering them. In a chevy tahoe. He swears by rocford and im wanting a system that will be just as loud, if not louder then his.(least thats what im hoping for)

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