Punkeyboozter

So who will be posting the first review?

Any one tried the eminence mids? Seems very similar to the sundown offerings and the price seems great. Wonder how they will go with some morel supremo tweets. I have used their pa speakers with great results but idk about car speakers. Any other suggestions welcome. Application loud daily but sq is important. Thx

Thx, that being said 80% of the car speakers out there dont impress me either including some of the mega buck units

Yeah bro, i was begging jacob to bring them neo's out and nothing. Then suck my dick asked for them and his bandwagon chimed in so now looks like they may just actually bring them out soon. Not sure if i should try them emineces out any way. Its not like im a money tree and i do have the worry that they may not work for me. I could post my build log link if u want to follow but chances are it will go down in jan. Who the F gave you a negative??? lol.... Anyway, the B&C are too expensive I assume??? Lol i have a mystery hater. To be honest i looked at them but the sixes were rated to only 120hz have you seen them any lower? yes, this here... : http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=294-647 Dang they do look good. Have you tried them? A bit over my budget for now but let see what jan brings. Thx

Yeah bro, i was begging jacob to bring them neo's out and nothing. Then suck my dick asked for them and his bandwagon chimed in so now looks like they may just actually bring them out soon. Not sure if i should try them emineces out any way. Its not like im a money tree and i do have the worry that they may not work for me. I could post my build log link if u want to follow but chances are it will go down in jan. Who the F gave you a negative??? lol.... Anyway, the B&C are too expensive I assume??? Lol i have a mystery hater. To be honest i looked at them but the sixes were rated to only 120hz have you seen them any lower?

Yeah bro, i was begging jacob to bring them neo's out and nothing. Then suck my dick asked for them and his bandwagon chimed in so now looks like they may just actually bring them out soon. Not sure if i should try them emineces out any way. Its not like im a money tree and i do have the worry that they may not work for me. I could post my build log link if u want to follow but chances are it will go down in jan.

Ur right but it does matter when trying to build a optimal box

You mean your subs will be wired to two ohms? From what i know about the subs are that they are rated at 1k rms each. Not sure about that amp and if it will do 2k rms at 2ohms as most ps are rated at 1ohm. If that is the case they will be getting half their rated power. It also depends on what coil options you have on your subs. Have you purchased the drivers yet?

Cant remember to be honest. I could pull up someting over the wknd if you want but you will have to let me know your max dimentions and how much power ur running to those subs. I used .75" mdf but 1" is better. Do good bracing and you should be fine. Double baffle highly recommended.

Looks real good, but i recon its too big assuming its a 12; and tuned too high for daily. Might be about the right siZe if its the external dimentions incl the port. But to each his own.

Dont sir me bro, ur likely older then me. Subs are loaded fi bl 12's box is around 4.3cbf after displacement tuned to roughly 32hz. Perfect for loud daily

What is the big secret for next week?

here you go buddy, let me know if you need help

Same setup different subs. Tune around 32-35hz trunk cars tend to peak high though. Ill post a pic 2 morrow

you chasing numbers? or loud daily? around 4cbf is a good start

Looks fine to me Now where is the build log

should be fine some people use poly fill or pillow stuffing to make a small box act bigger then what it actually is.

you might but it also depends on other things such as your port in relation to box size and the amount of power you are planning to use. if you use more power u can use a smaller box within reason

That's interesting you say that. His recommendation was a ported box from kenwood's Freak series. I don't care how cool the box was they wanted $550 for it. screw them unless its some glassed box with leather or carbon it still too much. Use that money and buy some tools as this is an addictive hobby and even if you build the perfect box the first time chances are you you will get the itch again to build more and more and more. Here are some estimates and quality and region might change some of the prices. MDF 40-50bucks (wood shop can make most of the cuts for you) router 100 bucks router bits 30 bucks jigsaw 150 bucks sander 50bucks clamps 20bucks tape measure 10 bucks tube glue gun 10 bucks tube of glue 10 bucks enough for at least two boxes screws 10 bucks Drill 100 bucks screwdriver 5 bucks sanding paper 1 buck If you dont have money get highlighted items first People in these parts say now you have been poisoned.

Looks good, One thing though the way you did it places the baffle in the box which will make the box bigger if you mount it on the outside and its already bordering on the large side. apart from that it looks good and Id add some bracing as well as make the port slightly smaller as smaller ports tend to be a bit more musical unless your chasing numbers, but then again if you were chasing numbers often a smaller box with a big port gives you more of a peak that those guys are after. As the box is now it should work for most. didn't check the box dimensions just make sure there is some space for the rear of the sub to clear the port

Well first of Kenwood isn't a bad product but its essentially a mass market product and far from the best out there. They do other things like radio communication much better then car radio. Running a amp at 1 ohm does affect the SQ somewhat but you will be hard pressed to tell the difference its not like its like with headphones where you can tell the difference between 8ohm and 150 ohms. Chances are the amp he wants to sell to you aint 1 ohm stable and will likely do 2 or 4 ohms at best. Install is very important and how the sub box is designed will largely determine how well it plays. Chances are he would have sold you a basic sealed box any way so as long as its the right size and has a good seal it wont matter...why not stay here on the forum a while learn a few things and build your own box for 50-100 buck + you would have learned something and have the pride and satisfaction that comes with it. Id buy fi or sundown over kenwood any day...in fact I have done so and will continue to support companies that care about their clients...having a far superior product does help this fact.

yeah true but which unit are u using, also its a 10" you dont see many car specific mids in that size either. Just checked Their site and the 6" drivers I saw were all well over a 100 +hz I would love me some sub 80Hz drivers that can take 100RMS all day

You guys run these PA style speakers Free air or in enclosures such as kicks etc?

If you stick to the recommendations such as the vent size required for port for example. In the old days you can use a 18" driver with a 4" port no problem with a few mm xmax you wont have a problem chances are now a days your 12 with 18mm will over power a 4" aero under full load. I was actually thinking of making some 5" ports which should be good for a single 12 bl. Slot ports are a little less efficient and need a wee bit more area. Long story short follow the guidelines and you should be good to go. WinISD is also a good free tool. The re tool is also not too bad if you really dont have a clue and will get you 90% where you want to be; else I find the torres box tool to be nice for some tweeking and its better then the re tool