Billy Jack

Looks pretty good to me but I'm not there in person. If it looks good from 10 foot away I call it good. My new car and build has a couple of flaws but from 10 feet away it looks perfect. It's hard to keep a daily driver perfect. I met my woman at a store one day in my work car and she was driving our show car and sure enough a guy in a huge full size suv backs right into the show car setting 3 feet from the hooptie work car and just drives off. I was so pissed I was like he could have totaled the work car and I wouldn't have cared but he nails the one that cost piles of money then speeds away. We watched the stores cameras but he had a plastic cover over his plate so you couldn't read it. Bastard he was.

Yea I'm gonna try unhooking the rears and the dash and see how I like it. My truck did sound good like that but I honestly prefer the sound of a car full of speakers like I'm surrounded by music and can't tell where it's coming from. To me it sounds like your riding around with the band right in the car with you.

Yea that's what I'm doing I'm just replacing the stock speakers with my JL's. Factory had 3's in dash 6x9's in doors and rear. I bought a bracket to mount my 61/2's and tweeters to mount in the front door. I plan on using some second skin door kits before I mount my 6's. I thought dodge may have been using the doors as mids and the dash speakers as tweeters but I guess there just separate coaxial's. I mounted my JL HD1200/1 in the trunk with a 1000watt capable battery and a JL13w7 in a prowedge box. I am having a dual ported box built for 2dub 7's and I'm gonna pick up another amp and altenator later from Arron here at SSA. I spoke with him on chat and he said he could get me a mechman to support the 2 battery's and 2 HD's. Should sound pretty nice when it's all completed its not to shabby now with just the one sub and factory speakers.

Well I already have the system except the dash speakers so I'm not spending any money per say. I have ran just components up front before but honestly I prefer the sound of 4 corners. I like to fill as thought I'm surrounded by music and have it set so it sounds like I can't tell where the music is coming from. I had the setup your talking about in my last truck and yes it did sound good but I like the 4 corners with components up front. Now if I had room for rows and rows of front stage then yes I'm sure that would sound better No doubt. But thanks for the patience in explaining this to me I do understand what your saying about proper staging or sounding like you have a stage in front of you.

Ow and I'm not trying to come off as a know it all I'm not I still have a ton to learn I'm just asking questions so I can learn the proper way to run my system. I have always just ran components up front with the tweeter as close to my ear as possible and a couple coaxial's in the rear and adjusted it to blend together. I always assumed this would give concert like sound. I always thought it sounded good when one guitar plays on one side and then all hit.

So what do you consider rear fill. I always assumed if you had components up front and coaxial's in the back it was considered rear fill. Is 4 speakers at 4 corners not the way to go. And I'm talking about without the dash speakers of course. I know 6 speakers throws it off but is 4 not the way to go for proper sound?

M5 I'm almost 40 and have been building systems and competing since the early 90's trust me I have heard them all from $20k SQL installs up to walls of 18's in competition vehicles. I know what proper sound staging is and like I said I'm gonna try replacing all my factory speakers first and if it doesn't sound right I will unhook my dash speakers. Right now it sound really good but the rear fill does over power the front stage a little but at a couple of clicks of fade and it's fine I'm pretty sure changing out the doors is gonna take care of that. I know some people don't like rear fill or thinks it's a waiste but I prefer it in a mid size 4 door car.

Hell even edouble said the replacement dash speakers worked really good in our vehicles. So it's a 2-1 vote there ssa tech.

Ow and the 31/2's and factory 6x9's are already running parallel off the same channel and its sounds great but yes that could change when I add the 61/2 components. If it doesn't sound right I will unhook the dash 31/2's.

I didn't read it any where I design my systems from personal experience. And my last car had the same system minus the dash speakers and its sounded awesome. And I like the sound the JL's make. Yes there are louder but not many that sound as good at such high levels.

Actually right now I am using the factory dash and door speakers. The only ones I have installed is the rear JL C2 6x9's. I had to mount my JL 61/2's and tweets to a custom bracket to make them fit the door 6x9 location. I'm now ready to take out the factory door 6x9's and install my 61/2's and tweeters. Now I gotta get some JL 31/2's for the dash. All in all in sounded decent running the factory highs but they can't keep up with the rear JL 6x9's. I had to move the fade to the front a couple of clicks to make it sound right. Whenever it rains again and my business slows down I'm gonna mount the door speakers and crossovers then it should sound as good as it did in my last car. And I like rear fill it takes a lot to keep up with this 13w7. Just 2 JL 61/2's and tweets want do it.

How is it irrelevant? I need to know what ohm cause if there 2 8ohm speakers running off one channel at 4ohms and I replace them with 2 4ohm speakers my alpine head unit and power pac doesn't drive 2ohm loads as far as I know. I don't have the paper work or anything that came with the power pack but I know it was rated for 50x4@4ohms.

Holly shit 425lbs was my max squat in high school that's a bad bitch right there. Now I have trouble squatting to take a dump lol I'm old as shit.

I would go with a ported box 4th order is usually hard to tune from what I have been told but don't quote me on that I'm no expert. Most 4th order boxes I have seen where for huge builds where they fill up the back of a Tahoe so a smaller 4th order may be easier. I know my friend who owns pj's car tunes said he did a computer model of his for 6 Memphis mojo's and when he built it the thing turned out to be tuned really high like a burp box. He ended up just doing a wall of slot ports.

I already have the JL components for my doors. I just need to know what ohms are the factory speakers. Do the factory door speakers, and dash speakers run off the same channel, like a component set at 8ohms a piece for a 4 ohm load combined, or are they separate speakers that are 4ohm. SSA has a sundown replacement for the dodge dash speakers but it doesn't say what ohm they are.

I have a 2013 Dodge Avenger and need to know what ohm the door and dash speakers are. I'm replacing the door speakers with JL C2 61/2's components and I have a Alpine hu 137bt with add on Alpine power pack powering my speakers. I have already replaced the rear 6x9's I'm just wondering if the front stage is 2 ohm speakers instead of 4ohm like I'm gonna use to replace, and if this will cause me problems. I already have the factory's playing off my alpine hu and power pack.

Ow no I'm good I'm just joking around with you guys, if you can't laugh at yourself, what's the point. I'm a thick skinned hillbilly from Kentucky, it's gonna take more then some bass heads giving me a hard time over my lack of technology skills, to run me off. Carry on.

Fuckin a papaw!

wow, you guys are kind of hard on the new guys. Yes I have never commented on a forum in my life, so I made a mistake and didn't see the date, but no need to get ill about it. I was actually laughing at myself I thought it was funny that a old fart like me couldn't use technology imagine that but I'm figuring it out.

I know how it's spelled I was kidding and in Appalachia where I'm from they call it old timers instead of Alzheimer's. Kind of like up north they say soda and down south they say pop.

Mean while I'm over here lost like a old man with old timers in a nursing home. This is the Viagra blog forum for old farts with limp noodles right??? Lol

There always one in every crowd!!!

I need that bc3500 crescendo amp you have. I can't seem to find one any where. What's up with that?

Well I'm old it could be a problem on my end lol I'm old to the bass scene but new to the blogging or forums or what ever it's called.