Carl

subs in the 80s and 90s was higher db/spl then subs are now and companies said a lower bd sub will take more power and last longer. what they don't tell you is that it takes 4 or 6 of todays subs to be as loud as 2 old school subs. so the company makes more money by forcing you to buy more subs and bigger amps to get loud

Pioneer TS-W1200PRO they are 105db I have a set