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Of course you have to have bracing but you still have to hold up 80lbs.with it being on top will help out alot. I didn't know you were outing it on top so 2 layers will be fine.

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Of course you have to have bracing but you still have to hold up 80lbs.with it being on top will help out alot. I didn't know you were outing it on top so 2 layers will be fine.

The Warden 21" is 59 lbs.

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if it would have stopped breaking the boxes it was in i wouldnt have had to wall it. but i went through to many boxes and it was starting to get pricey.

If you're breaking boxes, then they are built like :bull:!

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they were decent boxes. but i think it might have been shitty mdf in all honesty. and duran idk why ur quoting the weight of the warden. im using the death penalty. i was playing with a few pieces of the old mdf that i used for them and it seems a little bit too dry maybe? im not really sure how to explain it but it seemed waaay to dry for it being not even a year old. it was brittle and went kind of powdery if you broke a piece off.

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Oh my bad :(

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they were decent boxes. but i think it might have been shitty mdf in all honesty. and duran idk why ur quoting the weight of the warden. im using the death penalty. i was playing with a few pieces of the old mdf that i used for them and it seems a little bit too dry maybe? im not really sure how to explain it but it seemed waaay to dry for it being not even a year old. it was brittle and went kind of powdery if you broke a piece off.

Sounds like you guys where using particle board instead of mdf, sure it was mdf?

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Just FYI, having an enclosure too large lowers power handling above tuning as well. So it would have been easy to overexcurt the sub even with a higher subsonic filter setting because with that size of enclosure you probably could have broken the sub at any frequency with that power.

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they were decent boxes. but i think it might have been shitty mdf in all honesty. and duran idk why ur quoting the weight of the warden. im using the death penalty. i was playing with a few pieces of the old mdf that i used for them and it seems a little bit too dry maybe? im not really sure how to explain it but it seemed waaay to dry for it being not even a year old. it was brittle and went kind of powdery if you broke a piece off.

Take a pic of the old mdf or old boxes so we can see what your working with.

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Sounds like partical board to me!!!

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Maybe it's just where your buying it?

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that box doesnt like like 11-12 cubes.

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thats a box not the wall. thats why it doesnt look like 12 cubes cause its only 4.5 iirc. the wall which is in a diff pic is. anyways the wood was bought from home depot iirc. the wood at menards was waaaay worse when i went to check it out so i had to go there fro it. and yeah even after pre drilling the holes it split in a few spots but mostly in places that didnt need much strength.

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in that pic it looks like it may ave been hiting the seat so it might of had a bad start when you putit into the wall. but the 11+ cubes didnt help :( anyway go to lowes there wood isnt to bad.

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when putting a box together dont screw close to the ends ie stay 2-3in away or it will split. problem solved!

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i will keep that in mind with the screws and all on the next box.. and it wasnt hitting the seat. i had more than a hands width between the seat and surround at full excursion. thats why there is that .75" recess in the wall.

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Try using titebond 2 for ur wood glue. It's alot easier to work with then liquId nail and is very strong.

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in that pic it looks like it may ave been hiting the seat so it might of had a bad start when you putit into the wall. but the 11+ cubes didnt help :( anyway go to lowes there wood isnt to bad.

Im sure he checked this before he started with the foam and everything...

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