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What sort of features?  I actually just don't get it.  I want reliability, speed and wireless.  Those aren't features...

I of course left out wired ports which I need.

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14 hours ago, j-roadtatts said:

Danm dude, Would think you are in Colorado If I didnt know better. Pine tree covered mountains and rocks everywhere. Thanks for posting the pics!!

 

Thanks! Hopefully I'll get off my ass and drive off-road more now that I met other Jeep owners in town. 

In 6-9 October I should be halfway across the country for another Jeep meeting, IF I'm back from France (work trip). So more pics coming if I make it. 

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Tarmac is apparently bad at the race this weekend. Guess I'll wait until the end of the month for the last race of the season. 

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12 hours ago, ///M5 said:

I want reliability, speed and wireless

Exactly; features! ;)

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13 hours ago, ///M5 said:

does the better router buy me something other than speed?  

 

if not how do I know what is enough?

This is a lot like the IEM situation Sean.  I forgot more in research than I remember. I'll give you the real world info and you can go from there.

 

My house has horrible walls.  Plaster with steel mesh and instead of lath it's a gypsum with holes in it.  So much metal in the walls.  We tried d-link, linksys, N-something or another, and a super ultra > $500 enterprise level unit.  Here is what I found out.

 

None of them could pump signals to all corners no matter what.  The Asus without adjusting the software already had the strongest and most reliable connection.  It's optimised for games and streaming.  I don't know how it handles packets differently but it's helpful.  Also dual band with the ability to be on N is awesome.  It's a big jump up.

 

Anyway, the d-link, Nsomethingoranother, and the older linksys were all meh.  The new linksys and the enterprise unit worked ok.  The software was decent but tomato is better.

The Asus had stronger, more reliable, and 1500% less stuttery connection.  That's actually the most important.  If it's down and I can't do shit about it I'm ok.  What most annoys me is when it's up then down then up then down because of cross traffic or signals causing issues.

 

Physical location can make a big difference.  Do you have yours in a closet somewhere?

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Shit... to finish my real world review not only was the Asus better out of the box, after tweaking we resolved every single issue other than it can't reach every single corner.  The master bedroom near the wall is dead.  I think I could fix it with a relocation now that we have a strong sense of how to tweak the system and how to orient the antennae better.

 

The Asus software is perhaps even better than tomato or other routing software too.  It's really complete and let's you go deep into the system to squeeze the most speed or strength.  I go for strength/stability over speed. 

 

I have the "Dark Night" an older top end Asus.   I'm sure the new one would blow mine out of the water.

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14 hours ago, Penguin4x4 said:

Speed and "features", mostly. I'm partial to routers that can be converted over to the DD-WRT firmware myself. A lot more flexibility and customization, akin to rooting an Android device or jailbreaking an iPod/iPhone. Personally, I've never had good experiences with D-Link or Netgear networking products,  never had problems with Linksys products, and wasn't even aware Asus made networking equipment.

Or tomato. DD gives you more options though right?  Either way, I feel the Asus software gives me the enough depth into the hardware and I "feel" it helps optimise my setup.  Might be flimflam and hogwash, but it makes the setup and the troubleshooting less painful.

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13 hours ago, ///M5 said:

What sort of features?  I actually just don't get it.  I want reliability, speed and wireless.  Those aren't features...

I of course left out wired ports which I need.

Features??? Oh man.  From how packets are handled and prioritizing data and devices, to multi band and being able to use N....  wireless networking reminds me of an engine tune or overlooking a computer.  So many subtle changes that can change the reliability dramatically.  Why can't my chipset run at 4.7ghz but runs flawlessly under load at 4.6ghz? Voltage, heat, overpowering the chip because the MoBo isn't up for it, weird hiccups in the power source... who knows... but with a dynamic and comprehensive software suite you can tweak and tweak.

 

You can try to make record breaking speed runs or just set up for a stable workflow.  For 99.999999% of home power users like you Sean I would recommend Asus. If you had 15 more rooms and wanted a less dynamic and more vanilla experience then you move into enterprise or business like set ups.  If you want complete and simple control with high stability and speed, go with something that has a lot of grunt and control.

 

Linksys would be my go to after Asus and I would be doll hairs to donuts I would be using DD or tomato in a heartbeat, unless Linksys has really upped their game.

 

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You almost make me feel like i should buy a  Dark Knight.

$93

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006QB1RPY?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B006QB1RPY

That being said, Asus has a nice comparator tool on their website and I see the speed increases with the newer ones but am having a hard time picking the logical price point.

This is the upgrade to yours for $65 more:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB45SI4?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00FB45SI4

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3 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

You almost make me feel like i should buy a  Dark Knight.

$93

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006QB1RPY?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B006QB1RPY

That being said, Asus has a nice comparator tool on their website and I see the speed increases with the newer ones but am having a hard time picking the logical price point.

This is the upgrade to yours for $65 more:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB45SI4?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00FB45SI4

I would trust the dark night in a heart beat.  Let me see if I can find a review.  I would trust Anandtech or Tom's hardware for these reviews.

I'll get to searching to see if it's work the upgrade.  The dark night is super great.  Again we haven't even really gone deep into the settings.

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1 hour ago, dem beats said:

This is a lot like the IEM situation Sean.  I forgot more in research than I remember. I'll give you the real world info and you can go from there.

 

My house has horrible walls.  Plaster with steel mesh and instead of lath it's a gypsum with holes in it.  So much metal in the walls.  We tried d-link, linksys, N-something or another, and a super ultra > $500 enterprise level unit.  Here is what I found out.

 

None of them could pump signals to all corners no matter what.  The Asus without adjusting the software already had the strongest and most reliable connection.  It's optimised for games and streaming.  I don't know how it handles packets differently but it's helpful.  Also dual band with the ability to be on N is awesome.  It's a big jump up.

 

Anyway, the d-link, Nsomethingoranother, and the older linksys were all meh.  The new linksys and the enterprise unit worked ok.  The software was decent but tomato is better.

The Asus had stronger, more reliable, and 1500% less stuttery connection.  That's actually the most important.  If it's down and I can't do shit about it I'm ok.  What most annoys me is when it's up then down then up then down because of cross traffic or signals causing issues.

 

Physical location can make a big difference.  Do you have yours in a closet somewhere?

Had to install two wireless repeaters for the Wi-Fi to extend to the entire house. Just glad everything "important" on the home network is hardwired. Ethernet <3

Edited by Penguin4x4

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Went to a wedding on Sunday and asked a little old lady if I could help her down a curb.  She told me she had it.  I didn't quite believe it so I turned around after 2 steps and she was trying it and about 45 degrees to the earth. 

 

I got to her before her head rolled into a retaining wall but not before she landed on her hip.  Sure as shit I find out it was the brides grandmother and she broke her hip.  Glad I was there, really sad I didn't move faster.

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1 hour ago, Penguin4x4 said:

Had to install two wireless repeaters for the Wi-Fi to extend to the entire house. Just glad everything "important" on the home network is hardwired. Ethernet <3

Do the repeaters needs to be hardwired or do they repeat the wireless signal?

I also prefer wired EVERYTHING...but want to allocate reality of my phone and pc being flexible.

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15 minutes ago, ///M5 said:

Do the repeaters needs to be hardwired or do they repeat the wireless signal?

I also prefer wired EVERYTHING...but want to allocate reality of my phone and pc being flexible.

Well if it was hard it wouldn't really be a repeater as much as a dumb router but yeah there are options for both.  This is all really just going to be about what you want to live with.  Wireless router placement alone could change your circumstances alone.  Heck, if your devices are really particular antennae alignment could make a big enough difference.  I didn't know it but the orientation of the antennae and the device work more smooth when they match.  Hard to believe but I have seen it in action.

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The damn V20 might not hit until Christmas. 

 

Fucking damn it to hell.  I hate this S7. So much.  So so so so so much.

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So these IEMs are 36ohm and 110deebeez @ 100mv. And this Samsung cannot push them on anything dynamic and unless I'm in the top 1/4 oF power the amp is anemic. It sounds like it's struggling unless it's on full blast. Bass is washed out. Highs sound fucking clipped at times.  What gives?  I don't know what they did to their headphone output  but I think the iphone 7 will have a better headphone experience. 

>:(

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One nice feature for the S7 is the charge speed.  It gobbles up juice from the cord like a porn star does BBC.

The camera COULD be awesome if it wasn't super over saturated.  Extremely frustrating.

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I guess it's also mildly water proof, so I can watch some DVDA action in the shower but I read it fucks the 3.5mm jack even more.

 

Aaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, ///M5 said:

Do the repeaters needs to be hardwired or do they repeat the wireless signal?

I also prefer wired EVERYTHING...but want to allocate reality of my phone and pc being flexible.

The repeaters don't need to be hardwired. You can get something as barebones as the Linksys RE6300 or    something more versatile like the Linksys RE6500 which acts as in tandem as both a simple repeater and a 4 port switch.

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Mine are both Linksys WAP300N's because (at the time) they were the only thing in the price range that worked. That, and Linksys didn't offer any other type of repeater.

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Linksys even offers the RE6500HG, which is the RE6500 with...wait for it...High Gain antennas.

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