Welcome to the IHoP v.2

[///M5 2,833]

Gotta get nappy if you want to hide shit

[///M5 2,833]

Nappy Dugout

[Tirefryr 1,742]

Werd!

[MKader17 332]

It is the laundry list of engineering changes between year 1 and 2 that scare me. They don't always surface as things that "cost" you.

I agree that it could be there. You litteraly go from a hand full of test vehicles to thousands in a year so there are bound to be changes.

Unfortunately I don't have someone at Hyundai that could give me a nice list of the differences.

[Tirefryr 1,742]

15years ago, I'd agree. Now, I wouldn't be concerned. They cover everything up anyways.

[///M5 2,833]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

[///M5 2,833]

15years ago, I'd agree. Now, I wouldn't be concerned. They cover everything up anyways.

It is SO MUCH worse now than ever before. The stupid gubernment is putting all sorts of pressure on everyone to change everything for MPG. Structural components aren't strong enough, testing on drivetrain parts isn't done, all sorts of things occur.

Hell I know of a car that had a boom like the GM, but the cure was to slap a 7lb brick in the tailgate. I've also seen structural steel components changed AFTER manufacturing has been going on for a while. The electronic ghosts are the worst ones though.

[///M5 2,833]

Exceptions to the rule can be mild refreshes. ie, no electronic package change and no new drivetrain.

Who wants a first year 8 speed tranny?

First year direct injection motor?

First year drive by wire?

..and so on.

A wash rinse repeat, who cares, but those are rare these days.

[MKader17 332]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

 

 

You didn't and you won't. I appreciate the input

 

Being an engineer I KNOW it's a possibility. I did some research and based on what I saw I felt comfortable taking the risk. Will there be major issues? After 2 years on the market I doubt it. Will there be minor annoyances they fixed? Most likely.

 

When it came down to it, based on cars my wife liked and features we desired, we could afford a 2014 Espace Titanium 1.6L or the 2013 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T. My wife greatly preferred the Santa Fe so we went with it.

[///M5 2,833]

Will there be minor annoyances they fixed? Most likely.

They don't ever retrofix unless it is a safety liability.

[dem beats 1,223]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

I purchased a first year with the intent to sell it.

Only the known injection issue so far.

[///M5 2,833]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

I purchased a first year with the intent to sell it.

Only the known injection issue so far.

Mmm, first year SMG M5....

[dem beats 1,223]

Doublefuginclokkin M5 please.

[dem beats 1,223]

Drinking beers for 3 hours on a Monday. The only upside of retail.

[MKader17 332]

Will there be minor annoyances they fixed? Most likely.

They don't ever retrofix unless it is a safety liability.

Right, I meant that they fix it in later models.

[MKader17 332]

You guys have any experience with Husky floor mats?

 

We are looking to get them or WeatherTech (or anything else people might recommend). I have Weathertech in my truck and they've been good but slip a little more than I'd like. However, they seem to work really well in my dad's Lexus so it may be an application thing.

[ohio45113 24]

[ohio45113 24]

Anyone for some cheese?

[///M5 2,833]

You guys have any experience with Husky floor mats?

We are looking to get them or WeatherTech (or anything else people might recommend). I have Weathertech in my truck and they've been good but slip a little more than I'd like. However, they seem to work really well in my dad's Lexus so it may be an application thing.

weathertech SUCk compared to husky

[sandt38 448]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

 

Buffeting is such a common problem in large cabin trucks, though. I think the worst I have ever heard was a friend of mine's Dodge Dakota king cab (circa 2007-09). The buffeting made it feel like someone was taking a sledge hammer to your skull. With the rear windows down going down the freeway it was retarded... It almost made me sick to my stomach.

[mikel7829 90]

My new book cam in today!!!!!!!!!!!

[MKader17 332]

 

You guys have any experience with Husky floor mats?

We are looking to get them or WeatherTech (or anything else people might recommend). I have Weathertech in my truck and they've been good but slip a little more than I'd like. However, they seem to work really well in my dad's Lexus so it may be an application thing.

weathertech SUCk compared to husky

 

Sean said Husky. I've been in a do opposite of what Sean says streak

 

*goes to buy weathertech*

[mikel7829 90]

 

 

You guys have any experience with Husky floor mats?

We are looking to get them or WeatherTech (or anything else people might recommend). I have Weathertech in my truck and they've been good but slip a little more than I'd like. However, they seem to work really well in my dad's Lexus so it may be an application thing.

weathertech SUCk compared to husky

 

Sean said Husky. I've been in a do opposite of what Sean says streak

 

*goes to buy weathertech*

 

LOL....

[///M5 2,833]

It is shocking how many which is why I recommended against it. From a guy who helps trouble shoot the NVH ones, it is nuts.

GM has the MOST advanced NVH lab in the world, yet shit like this happens:

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/cadillac-forum/t-678953.htm

http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/168815-2015-yukontahoe-ear-pressure-buffeting-problem-post-here/

http://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70290

That is just a small NVH issue. The other shit I see dumbfounds me as well. Enough so I wouldn't ever buy one. Don't mean to sour your purchase, but there will be all sorts of nitnoys that pop up during its life. It happens with EVERY car manufacturer. The Germans may be the worst though.

 

Buffeting is such a common problem in large cabin trucks, though. I think the worst I have ever heard was a friend of mine's Dodge Dakota king cab (circa 2007-09). The buffeting made it feel like someone was taking a sledge hammer to your skull. With the rear windows down going down the freeway it was retarded... It almost made me sick to my stomach.

That is different, this is a booming. ie, all windows closed and it still occurs. I've done a shit ton of work helping different places try to measure and understand buffeting to make it modelable, but booming is something that sneaks up on you once ou start lightweighting.

[///M5 2,833]

You guys have any experience with Husky floor mats?

We are looking to get them or WeatherTech (or anything else people might recommend). I have Weathertech in my truck and they've been good but slip a little more than I'd like. However, they seem to work really well in my dad's Lexus so it may be an application thing.

weathertech SUCk compared to husky

Sean said Husky. I've been in a do opposite of what Sean says streak

 

*goes to buy weathertech*

I bought both for my truck, returned the weathertech