Incriminator Pro Audio

[Shogen 325]

go here   US Speaker .... more research for "pro audio" drivers "made well"

[ParrishElectronics 6]

ParrishElectronics, on 12 Jun 2013 - 18:31, said:

I certainly don't mean to slam anyone. I apologize if it came off that way. Even though I hate pro audio drivers and don't believe they belong in an automobile (previous comp winners noted and excluded), that's just me. If anyone wants to use them, I say go for it. I'm a firm believer in using what one wants and what sounds good to me, may not sound good to you. I was just stating my opinion. The OP may choose to let my opinion influence his decision or not. Either way, I'm good with whatever he chooses, so long as he likes it, its all good.

I don't believe Blues Audio drivers belong in an automobile.

Misconceptions keep flying. Inherently a pro audio driver is still just a driver. When used in an application that highlights its capabilities the results can be great.

Two difficulties with the implementations you see in car audio.

-With efficiency comes a narrow bandwidth

-it's only morons who generically use them. Completely forget to think about the application and instead just buy a driver and use it WAY out of its strength. ie, they forget the first difficulty

LOL.  I am really surprised!!!!

[///M5 2,833]

LOL.  I am really surprised!!!!

Surprised at what?

It was far from a recommendation to do it. Implementing a 4 way active setup isn't trivial and mounting locations and other constraints make it a bitch. Can be done effectively. I've used a ton of PA drivers in my life, but always thinking about the application at hand first and not following some idiot recommendation on the web.

If you were surprised at my Blues comment, I thought I would just make ridiculous judgemental claims to mimic your own. Of course, in my case I'll stand by mine but it has nothing to do with the drivers themselves but the bullshit marketing machine and retardedly brand loyal consumer base. They aren't special drivers...not unlike most PA drivers. In application of course they can be used, but as a fit for all they are as big of a fucking joke as Pro Audio drivers.

Raw drivers are dumb. They will only do what you make them do. Using them out of context will result in less than stellar performance. Doesn't matter what the driver is this holds true. The sad part with PA drivers is that I haven't seen a good implementation of them ever posted on a car audio forum by their owner.

[///M5 2,833]

go here   US Speaker .... more research for "pro audio" drivers "made well"

Be VERY careful in that search. You cannot just look at one spec or another and pick a PA driver. You'll end up with shit.

Generically speaking most PA midbasses need to be in a somewhat large ported enclosure to work effectively. That isn't trivial to make work in a car.

[pmureika 31]

I love my 6.5 Mach 5's.

[ParrishElectronics 6]

LOL.  I am really surprised!!!!

Surprised at what?

It was far from a recommendation to do it. Implementing a 4 way active setup isn't trivial and mounting locations and other constraints make it a bitch. Can be done effectively. I've used a ton of PA drivers in my life, but always thinking about the application at hand first and not following some idiot recommendation on the web.

If you were surprised at my Blues comment, I thought I would just make ridiculous judgemental claims to mimic your own. Of course, in my case I'll stand by mine but it has nothing to do with the drivers themselves but the bullshit marketing machine and retardedly brand loyal consumer base. They aren't special drivers...not unlike most PA drivers. In application of course they can be used, but as a fit for all they are as big of a pucking joke as Pro Audio drivers.

Raw drivers are dumb. They will only do what you make them do. Using them out of context will result in less than stellar performance. Doesn't matter what the driver is this holds true. The sad part with PA drivers is that I haven't seen a good implementation of them ever posted on a car audio forum by their owner.

Look man, I came back after the initial post and tried to say I wasn't jumping on the guy.  If he wants to do it, then fine.  I stated it was only MY OPINION and he could choose to let it influence his decision or not, simple as that.

 

I hate pro audio drivers.  That's ME.  It's apparent you hate the brand Blues.  Fine.  But, you then go on to make a statement that indicates their customer base is retarted.  Whatever man, I don't have the time nor the energy to sit here and argue with you.  You like what you do, I like what I do.  We can leave it at that, if you think you can?  I don't make personal attacks on individuals or anyone customers' base.

Edited June 13, 2013 by ParrishElectronics

[///M5 2,833]

LOL.  I am really surprised!!!!

Surprised at what?

It was far from a recommendation to do it. Implementing a 4 way active setup isn't trivial and mounting locations and other constraints make it a bitch. Can be done effectively. I've used a ton of PA drivers in my life, but always thinking about the application at hand first and not following some idiot recommendation on the web.

If you were surprised at my Blues comment, I thought I would just make ridiculous judgemental claims to mimic your own. Of course, in my case I'll stand by mine but it has nothing to do with the drivers themselves but the bullshit marketing machine and retardedly brand loyal consumer base. They aren't special drivers...not unlike most PA drivers. In application of course they can be used, but as a fit for all they are as big of a fucking joke as Pro Audio drivers.

Raw drivers are dumb. They will only do what you make them do. Using them out of context will result in less than stellar performance. Doesn't matter what the driver is this holds true. The sad part with PA drivers is that I haven't seen a good implementation of them ever posted on a car audio forum by their owner.

Look man, I came back after the initial post and tried to say I wasn't jumping on the guy.  If he wants to do it, then fine.  I stated it was only MY OPINION and he could choose to let it influence his decision or not, simple as that.

 

I hate pro audio drivers.  That's ME.  It's apparent you hate the brand Blues.  Fine.  But, you then go on to make a statement that indicates their customer base is retarted.  Whatever man, I don't have the time nor the energy to sit here and argue with you.  You like what you do, I like what I do.  We can leave it at that, if you think you can?  I don't make personal attacks on individuals or anyone customers' base.

Reading comprehension eludes you. Google adjective. On top of that the only way you can take that personally is if the shoe fits. Like with anything stereotypes don't apply to all, but if you felt it personally then perhaps a mirror is in order. You can keep "arguing" with yourself if you like, I'm not a part of that.

Keeping this on topic, perhaps you'd like to share why you hate pro audio drivers. Perhaps separating your emotional reactions as they don't really add anything to the thread.

[ParrishElectronics 6]

 

 

LOL.  I am really surprised!!!!

Surprised at what?

It was far from a recommendation to do it. Implementing a 4 way active setup isn't trivial and mounting locations and other constraints make it a bitch. Can be done effectively. I've used a ton of PA drivers in my life, but always thinking about the application at hand first and not following some idiot recommendation on the web.

If you were surprised at my Blues comment, I thought I would just make ridiculous judgemental claims to mimic your own. Of course, in my case I'll stand by mine but it has nothing to do with the drivers themselves but the bullshit marketing machine and retardedly brand loyal consumer base. They aren't special drivers...not unlike most PA drivers. In application of course they can be used, but as a fit for all they are as big of a pucking joke as Pro Audio drivers.

Raw drivers are dumb. They will only do what you make them do. Using them out of context will result in less than stellar performance. Doesn't matter what the driver is this holds true. The sad part with PA drivers is that I haven't seen a good implementation of them ever posted on a car audio forum by their owner.

 

Look man, I came back after the initial post and tried to say I wasn't jumping on the guy.  If he wants to do it, then fine.  I stated it was only MY OPINION and he could choose to let it influence his decision or not, simple as that.

 

I hate pro audio drivers.  That's ME.  It's apparent you hate the brand Blues.  Fine.  But, you then go on to make a statement that indicates their customer base is retarted.  Whatever man, I don't have the time nor the energy to sit here and argue with you.  You like what you do, I like what I do.  We can leave it at that, if you think you can?  I don't make personal attacks on individuals or anyone customers' base.

 

Reading comprehension eludes you. Google adjective. On top of that the only way you can take that personally is if the shoe fits. Like with anything stereotypes don't apply to all, but if you felt it personally then perhaps a mirror is in order. You can keep "arguing" with yourself if you like, I'm not a part of that.

Keeping this on topic, perhaps you'd like to share why you hate pro audio drivers. Perhaps separating your emotional reactions as they don't really add anything to the thread.

Ok, lets keep this simple.  You are RIGHT.  Everything you post is CORRECT.  I'm done with this.

[gprestonmoto 89]

DAMN, didn't mean to start a war. Lol, however I really would not mind heading up to Minnesota or at least shooting some shit on the phone with Sean. You are a sharp dude, and I would really like to pick your brain and hear some recommendations from you for my personal project without any interference. Possibly e-mail?

[BigGuy 22]

I just want to say I have always had good sound with Focal, Polk, and HAT components.  I never knew shit about specs.  I just went by reviews, price and, warranty.

[eggyhustles 33]

Pro audio was the best thing to ever happen to my ears.

[///M5 2,833]

Pro audio was the best thing to ever happen to my ears.

low standards

[eggyhustles 33]

Pro audio was the best thing to ever happen to my ears.

low standards

Possibly. 

 

I couldn't really get a dynamic sounding setup with a conventional car audio speakers.

 

Or should I say, I couldn't get what I wanted from them. 

 

The pro stuff matched my goals. 

Edited June 16, 2013 by eggyhustles

[Notorious97200 339]

I've never listened to a good setup with pro audio drivers in a car. I know it's possible, but..,

I hate them, ....until I can find good ones.

I'm not into competition sound systems.

My single set of Focal is still amazing to my ears. (I had the budget for that).

[sweendog 3]

I've heard multiple cars sound great with pro audio.

[KyleBrown 121]

No one springs the coin for "good" pro audio drivers. That being said, it is generally implied most people installing pro audio drivers into their 10-20kw substage setups. DON'T GET "GOOD" PRO AUDIO DRIVERS. No sundown neo pro's, not selenium or nendo or w/e. I've yet to hear any setup properly. I must have missed all these amazing pro audio setups... Talking about a car that existed 10 years ago means nothing now. Most people don't remember their breakfast. Honestly it looks some of you argue just to argue... It's beyond ridiculous. 

 

Everything being said, 99.5% of all these cars with pro audio gear sound like shit. So GFY.