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Reason to get 2 vs 4 ohm subwoofer, same exact except ohm?

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Ok maybe not going for the rockford fosgate T1. quite expensive, but also idk... maybe not the best thing to get for the price?

Looking at Hellion 12, but higher rms than i think i would ever be able to provide. So also looking at these subwoofers.... but when looking at their specifications the numbers are confusing for abbreviations and such. Just looking for a loud, yet decent sounding subwoofer.

I guess I prefer a 2 ohm subwoofer because it requires a lower wattage amp most often.

Sundown Audio SA-12 750 W SA Series 2 ohm for $179.00

Tezla Audio 1.0k Series 12" 750w Sub 2 ohm for $279.99

Crystal Audio Solutions 12" 750w CS12 Sub for $253.99     This one has several confusing upgrades? But looks aesthetically pleasing lol

 

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The impedance of the sub has nothing to do with power requirements, nor does the RMS for that matter.

That being said, of those three, I would go with the Sundown.  It's cheaper, it's proven, and it's proven.  I've never heard of the other two, and personally, I'd hesitate to give anyone $300 of my money for an unproven product.

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1 hour ago, Tirefryr said:

The impedance of the sub has nothing to do with power requirements, nor does the RMS for that matter.

That being said, of those three, I would go with the Sundown.  It's cheaper, it's proven, and it's proven.  I've never heard of the other two, and personally, I'd hesitate to give anyone $300 of my money for an unproven product.

Ok thanks. Between the sundown and the hellion, which would you suggest? I am thinking the hellion. But afraid to have too powerful amp that messes with my electrical system. But also to help avoid sending a clipped signal to subwoofer, I will get a decent amplifier that can power the sub at its rated rms, but just not use it to send full potential rms? Sound good?

But I guess I could still send clipped signal even the amp is rated at similar RMS as sub? If the gain isnt set properly could still clip?

So confusing!

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Yes, but you're overthinking it.  Use your ear to set the gain.  The driver will tell you when you're at the limit. 

I've not yet had any experience with the Hellion, but the other SSA subs I have and they have all been great.  I have no reason to believe the Hellion will be any different. 

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44 minutes ago, Tirefryr said:

Yes, but you're overthinking it.  Use your ear to set the gain.  The driver will tell you when you're at the limit. 

I've not yet had any experience with the Hellion, but the other SSA subs I have and they have all been great.  I have no reason to believe the Hellion will be any different. 

Thanks. Considering premade boxes now. Seen 2 ported ones on this sites store, but the khaotik is a bit expensive so not sure. I do like how the khaotik looks though

Bit hesitant on the boombox. But seems like a good box?

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I am trying to find out if the Synergy Audi EFA 1k amp can take 0 guage wire? To see if I should order 4 guage, or 0 for amp. Prefer to use 0 guage just in case.

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On 12/7/2018 at 8:08 PM, Florida_Audio said:

Thanks. I spoke with Aaron about difference between Icon and Helion. I think he said Icon was warmer and i forgot what word he used to describe helion. I guess then my question is what words can be used to describe the "quality" of a subwoofer? I have not really listened to much else other than the rockford fosgate p1. I do know my factory 8 in subwoofer is horrible. almost gives me a headache, cant really describe how it sounds other than just bad.

still crazy busy, but want to measure tomorrow I hope. Between work and applications for Doctorate programs been busy

Sean is correct, loads of brands throw the word "quality" around all the time, and the mass majority of the market doesn't take the time to really see if it's true.

In this case, quality of the subwoofer is about the performance, the fit and finish, the end sound, does it do as described, and the people behind it (i.e. warranty/CS).  As for as sound, the Icon is, and has always leaned a little on the warmer side (thicker or more dense) of sound characteristics, due to the large copper coil and heavier cone body.  The Hellion is a little more neutral/drier of a sound than the Icon by a little.  That is just something you will pick up over time and countless different subs in different installs on different music.

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50 minutes ago, Aaron Clinton said:

Sean is correct, loads of brands throw the word "quality" around all the time, and the mass majority of the market doesn't take the time to really see if it's true.

In this case, quality of the subwoofer is about the performance, the fit and finish, the end sound, does it do as described, and the people behind it (i.e. warranty/CS).  As for as sound, the Icon is, and has always leaned a little on the warmer side (thicker or more dense) of sound characteristics, due to the large copper coil and heavier cone body.  The Hellion is a little more neutral/drier of a sound than the Icon by a little.  That is just something you will pick up over time and countless different subs in different installs on different music.

Thanks. I would like to order today hopefully. Just trying to finalize my plans.

The Synergy EFA 1k can handle 0 guage wire for amp kit?

The hellion 12, dual 2 ohm can be wired in parallel to be 1 ohm at the amp? So then I can use synergy efa 1k to do up to 1k rms at 1 ohm?

 

Looking to get hellion 12" sub, Synergy Audio EFA 1k amplifier, and BoomTown BT112 Single 12" Speaker box.

Is there a perhaps a combo discount for, subwoofer, subwoofer box, and amplifer? :]  Thanks again Aaron!

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31 minutes ago, Florida_Audio said:

Thanks. I would like to order today hopefully. Just trying to finalize my plans.

The Synergy EFA 1k can handle 0 guage wire for amp kit?

The hellion 12, dual 2 ohm can be wired in parallel to be 1 ohm at the amp? So then I can use synergy efa 1k to do up to 1k rms at 1 ohm?

Is there a perhaps a combo discount for, subwoofer, subwoofer box, and amplifer? :]  Thanks again Aaron!

The EFA 1k uses 4 gauge.  Yes, D2 subs can we wired in parallel to 1 ohm mono.  Yes, we can certainly do a combo discount. :)

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23 minutes ago, Aaron Clinton said:

The EFA 1k uses 4 gauge.  Yes, D2 subs can we wired in parallel to 1 ohm mono.  Yes, we can certainly do a combo discount. :)

Cools thanks. Should I email you about the order? I am ready to order :]

I asked on support chat phone. Told me to use 0 to 4 guage reducers then. Need 2 of them, 1 for power, and 1 for ground. And should still provide some benefit over just 4 guage amp wiring kit.

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54 minutes ago, Florida_Audio said:

Cools thanks. Should I email you about the order? I am ready to order :]

I asked on support chat phone. Told me to use 0 to 4 guage reducers then. Need 2 of them, 1 for power, and 1 for ground. And should still provide some benefit over just 4 guage amp wiring kit.

Email is good.

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