Since we have been out so long I decided to open pre-ordering for the month of June -- they are due in July with the specific ETA still being up in the air. I will post when I get a better date within July. I will run this for the month of June and maybe a little bit into July depending on the specific date of arrival. This run features all the updates so far on the 8s AND the new style frame: This frame has superior clearances and is actually a bit easier to get in the hole with large speaker