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  3. Posted · Edited by naughtyca

    Go ahead & put a 70w sinewave on them & see what happens.

    I don't know why you're even worried about the responses to this thread. You are going to do it anyways, it's obvious from your posts. Quit bitching about the responses that you are receiving & go hook up your subwoofers. Problem solved.

    YOU DON'T EVEN OWN AN E SERIES, i dont need your negative opinion of something you never experienced

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    If you apply more than recommended power to a subwoofer you are risking failure. Period. Your buddy's uncle's friend's third cousin might have powered them with more power without issue, but that doesn't inherently mean you're now "in the clear". The enclosure, musical content, listening habits, system settings, etc etc all play a part of the equation.

    If Jacob wanted to recommend users apply 650w+ per driver on a regular basis, that's how he would have rated them. Instead he rated them @ 400w. So what does that tell you? I admittedly could very well be wrong, but I would be surprised if Jacob came in here & recommended you apply 50%+ more power to the driver (more than double at rated power of the Hifonics) on a daily basis. Not many manufacturer's would do such a thing. So if that's what you want, I wouldn't hold your breath.

    Is it possible to use that amplifier with those subwoofers without issue? Sure, it's possible. If nothing else use the gain and/or another subwoofer level control to keep power under control. Would I recommend applying full power from that amplifier to those subwoofers on a daily basis? No.

    But based on your responses and your arguing with everyone who seems to think it's potentially hazardous, you are obviously dead set on doing it. So hook them up & cross your fingers.

    ho hummm

    quick question do you put 35 watts on your mids and highs if that is rated, hey look rated 35 watts!! don't put anything over or you'll blow your speakers

    example

    Boston Acoustics SE65

    SE Series 6-1/2" 2-way Speakers

    • 6-1/2" SE Series 2-Way Car Speakers
    • Power Handling:
      • RMS: 70 watts per set / 35 watts each side

    I'm tired of this thread

    I wish i could lock this to only people that run E series to comment

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  5. Posted

    I agree assumption is ussually the mother of all fuckups lol.

    but to give you a real life situation. I am running single RF T1d212 @ 1ohm on this amp for over 3 months now. and it has not bottomed out or smelled, my dustcap hasnt even warmed that much when i run it kinda hard from work to home 45min drive.

    but i'm waiting from somebody in Sundown to reply to this thread. hopefully they will.

    Thank you for all your post, i do understand your point.

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  6. Posted

    Thank you for calling me a beginner, do the math 1300 is actually 650 per sub these are rated at 400w and from what i've seen people over power these Sundowns

    Haha I screwed up the math, my bad. But the point is still the same. I'm not calling you a beginner because I think you don't know what you're doing or trying to insult you if that's what you think. In my experience people who ask things like "will this woofer take x watts" don't know when their woofer is giving up. If you knew when to back off you wouldn't have to ask.

    What I DON'T WANT, is for us to make him think its ok to grossly over power his woofers because "Sundown subs are beast!" or because "impedance rise will make it where the woofers won't see that much." Sundown makes good woofers. Impedance rise exists. But that doesn't mean that the woofers won't blow on that amp. I don't want you to blow your woofers...that's all?

    I was hoping for people who actually has the E series to reply and tell me what amp they are using and was hoping somebody is overpowering these subs.

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    Yeah...did you hear that knocking noise? That was the woofer bottoming out. It wasn't "taking it" it was breaking lol. Just because the sub didn't catch on fire and blow right away doesn't mean that it was "taking it." If you tried to do that all day every day I promise you the woofer wouldn't last long.

    If you think it'll be fine then do it, no one here can stop you, but we're giving you 100% honest advice. The E series wasn't made to handle that power. If you try to feed it that power for more than maybe 1 or 2 minutes at a time it will break. If you play them lightly and know when to be easy on them (cuz they're about to break...) then go ahead.

    Not trying to be an ass, but it's a bad idea.

    Actually I do hear that slapping and that's the sub unloaded FREE-AIR, no one runs subs Free-air especially these subs. Granted his "rated" power is more than the E series are rated to handle however, all sundown products from my experience are OVER built. I have sold and installed E/D and SA series sundown subs and they have ALL taken more power than rated easily. His amp is "rated" at 1700watts at 1ohm mono, again remember that nominal ratings are just that nominal and not what is seen during music play. Because as frequency changes so does impedance, that coupled with the efficiency of the amp I think he will be fine. As well as long as his amp gain is set properly and not just cranked to max he will be fine. Also most people crank the "bass boost" again another option to remember to leave at 0dB because it's just not efficient. Now I am by NO means an amplifier expert but Jacob has a nice topic on why you should never rely on nominal impedance ratings.

    Overall he should be perfectly fine with the E series to start out even with that amplifier. http://www.hifonics....s_BRZ_Amps.html Although it says CEA compliant I would really need to see a clamp test before I believe that amp does 1700watts.

    Anyway the bottom line is he shoud be fine as long as the proper settings are done on the amp and the enclosure is built well.

    My SA-12's are getting about 900w each and laughing at it. I can play them for hours and the dustcaps don't even warm up, even when my voltage starts to trail off into the high 12's and the power isn't as clean anymore. I know first hand how over built Sundown subs are.

    BUTTTTT I also know giving a 4-500 watt woofer to a beginner who is trying to run them at 750+ each (granted that the amplifier provides 1300w like he said ) is a terrible idea. ESPECIALLY if he thinks that what he saw in that video was the sub "taking it" and not being murdered. I don't think he would know when to back off and to say those subs could handle that amp no problem is...well...not smart.

    Thank you for calling me a beginner, do the math 1300 is actually 650 per sub these are rated at 400w and from what i've seen people over power these Sundowns

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  11. Posted

    thank you guys for posting, currently have not enough money for SA, want to try the E series to get a feel for Sundown. unfortunately i haven't personally heard Sundown (isnt that sad?) I was going to run 2 RF T1 until i found the Sundown from numerous forums.

    anyways regarding cea on Hifonics, im running RF T1 @4ohm on my old Kenwood kac 7204 which is bridged at 500w@4ohm and when i switch to the BRZ 1700.1D i did notice the kenwood is more powerful at 4ohm BRZ is supposed to be 600w@4ohm, so i know they are still not rated but close which is good for me.

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  12. Posted

    spoiler

    1 ohm and 1 ohm gives you .5 ohm and i know hifonics are not half ohm stable how many ohms are your subs dual 2 or 4 ohms

    sorry for the confusion. Im running both subs 2ohm each and will end up 1ohm to the amp and the amp is 1ohm stable

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  13. Posted · Edited by naughtyca

    Hello,

    can i get opinion if this set up will work. I'll be running pair of the E-12D4 at 1ohm on BRZ 1700.1D. I know the BRZ will not output 1700 @ 1ohm probably close to 1300@1ohm.

    I am also trying to find how big of a magnet these E series 12" subs are.

    Thank you for posting

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