JonnieBlaze

Well I worked on it for a few more hours tonight. Seems like I work for hours and hardly get anything done. Tonight I got one side glassed for an enclosure and covered the other side with foil so I can glass it tomorrow night. The plan is to put two of the Sundown E8's in each enclosure. They'll be sealed. Passenger side foiled, ready for fiberglass: Driver side fiberglassed. Has a couple layers on it now. Will pop it out and add more layers and reinforcement this weekend:

Nope just a vent to the outside. Its tucked behind the plastic molding that goes around the car. I'm not too worried about it. It will have plenty of air flow. Probably more than needed but oh well.

I was just hoping to keep all the pics and install related information at the very top. But its alright...no big deal. Here is the car all of this will be installed in: Rear Passenger side with no deadening: Deadening Added: Cardboard frame work for the sub enclosure: I still need to add deadener to the floor, and ensolite just about everywhere. There are some vents back in that little cubby hole where the cardboard is. That little channel I built out of cardboard is so the vent still gets airflow like it did from the factory. I honestly dont know what its for, but I dont really want to block it off with fiberglass. I can't work on it tonight, but I'll get more pics up when I get the chance to work on it some more.

Hmm..Well I was going to add some pics tonight but now it looks like I can't edit my original post or any of the ones I reserved. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong?

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I didnt mean I'd have two 6.5's, two 4's and two tweeters on each side, I just meant in the car total. There is a flat spot on my door panel that I could cut out and cut some of the door behind it to house another 6.5. That would give me two in each door. I dont think there is enough room at that flat spot for the 8, but I'm going to check again next time I go out to the car. I really hope I can find room to put it there. There is hardly any space for a 4 inch and tweeter at the kick panel, so I know there is no hope of putting the 8 in a kickpanel. If I find room in the flat spot of my door panel to put the 8, it will be right around my hip, not anywhere near the kicks. Would that be a bad move?

Hey Everyone. I bought these 8 Inch Peerless SLS speakers a year ago to put in my Neon. I bought them because I was told if I could fit an 8 inch woofer in my door, there was absolutely no reason to go with a 6.5 inch woofer. Well I recently bought a used 2005 Subaru Forester and I can’t figure out any way at all to install my 8 inch Peerless woofers. My question is, would I really loose a lot of the punchy bass that I love if I go down to a 6.5 inch woofer in my doors? My doors will be sealed and deadened. I have 4 inch peerless midranges and seas tweeters that I’m hoping to install in some custom kickpanels. They’ll be running off an alpine H701 for a 3way active with 4 8 inch Sundown subs in the back. I really like the higher, very punchy bass and I’m afraid if I go down to a 6.5 inch woofer I won’t be able to achieve that. Secondly, I know you all love the MLI-65 from mach, but how does it compare to this 6.5 inch peerless? The peerless has more excursion so would that mean it would give me more of the bass I’m looking for? *Edit* --> The max I can go is 7 inches dia and 3.5 inches deep. Maybe there are some other woofers that would be better at giving me the bass I want than these two? I wasn’t planning on installing any rear speakers, but would adding a second pair of 6.5 woofers to the backdoors completely mess up all my imaging or would it help a little to give me back some of the bass I’ll be missing from the 8s? Thanks for the help!

I noticed the Sensitivity of the Peerless, CSS, and MLI were 86.5, 85.0, and 89.0 respectively. Are those close enough to not make a difference, or is that a significant difference? Even though the excursion of the peerless is pretty far at 8 mm, does the higher sensitivity of the MLI make it a better midbass driver to achieve the punchy, 50-100 hz bass?

I looked at my doors again tonight and for me personally, its going to be too much to cut the doors up and glass the 8's into the door. I'm going to have to go with 2 6.5" midbass, 2 4" midrange, and 2 tweeters. 6.5 in the doors sealed the best i can, and the rest in kickpanels. I hope I dont end up disappointed with 6.5" compared to 8". No one has mentioned the 6.5 Peerless SLS I linked to in the original post. Does anyone have experience with that compared to the MLI? My amp will be pushing 120 watts at 4 ohms rms. From what you all are saying, that seems like a decent match for the MLIs while the SLS only calls for 50 watts rms and 100 peak. I've also seem some people mentioning the CSS XDS7 but at 100 bux a pop that's out of my price range. 50-60 each is sounding a little better. I'm just really looking for the speaker that will put out the most. I know it depends mostly on the install, but it still depends on the driver pretty heavily as well. Can anyone compare any of these speakers to each other in terms of midbass output?

Sorry, I can't help you out with that. When I bought the Neon, it only had two tweeters..all the other speakers were blown. So i made a baffle for the 8 inch peerless and cut out two huge holes in the door panels and put them in, wired to the factory radio. No deadening, door wasn't sealed, no crossover. I just needed to put something in there temporarily until I could get something besides the neon. I liked them, but I have no idea what they are capable of because I did not install them correctly. I really wish I could put the 8s in my doors, but I dont think I can figure out an easy way to do it since I'm not very good with fiberglass. I've made a couple kickpanels before but nothing extravagant. Here is a pic of what my door looks like. So either I pick out a 6.5 that will achieve what I'm after, or I try to figure out a way to mount an 8 to that door, and fiberglass around it to make it look decent while keeping that little pocket area.

I've been searching for a while but can't find what I'm really looking for. I'm looking for a headunit with about the same capabilities as the H701. Currently I have Peerless 8s in my doors (going to seal my doors soon), seas tweeters and 4 inch speakers in sealed kickpanels, and four Sundown audio 8inch subs on the rear deck with a sealed box under them. I planned on 3 way active front stage and the subs (so would that be 4 way? haha..idk). I bought the H701 and controller from a guy on here last year but I'm not done with the install yet so I havent started using the H701. I need a new headunit because my old alpine is dying slowly. I've been searching around for a headunit that will have most of the same features I'd need for my setup that the H701 has. That way I could get rid of the H701 to reduce the size and complexity of the install a little (the system is only staying in this car for another 6 months or so then I have to get a new car). Before I bought the H701...the Pioneer 880prs, H701, and RF 360.2 were all recommended to me. I decided to go with the H701 because I felt it had more capabilities than the others. But now I'm wondering if maybe the 880prs (or 800prs) would truly be good enough for what I'm doing. I dont know what other information you'd need to know about my setup. I'm not competing...but was striving toward the best sound I could personally afford. I know the install is the most important piece of any audio system. So lets not go there...You've all lectured me on that already about a year ago haha. Maybe the H701 is truly too much for what I need. I dont know. I've never gone this far with an install before so I'm not sure what all the H701 has to offer or even how much tuning I will need to do. Maybe it offers too much for just a non-competing non-audiophile install and I could downgrade a little. I honestly do not know. I feel my install is good enough to truly impress me if tuned correctly, so I want to have something at least good enough for that. But it doesnt have to be competition quality unless there is a headunit with that amount of capabilities. I cannot afford anything over about $800 or so and I would gladly buy used. So any ideas? Or could anyone predict how much tuning I'm really going to want to do with an install like this? Will I use the all the features of something like the H701? Could I go with a good headunit and be happy?

Darn it. I was really hoping there would be something. Oh well...I guess its not much more of a hassle to wire up the H701. Was just hoping for an all in one solution sorta since I need a new hu anyway. If anyone else has some input let me know. Otherwise...I figure I'll keep the H701.

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