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scores? what freq? plug or "normal"? If I get no reply again, Ill just leave it alone and assume I made my point: that little home meter might just give me a 161 @ 15Hz, but at a comp with a TL 10dB is a HUGE gap. theres no response because there is no need to continue with this game you got going, I built my setup for what I want it to sound like and I am not tuned at 8hz like you. I am tuned at a normal frequency of which music plays. My amps are in locations that are safe for an amp to be in. My subs are a high output sound quality driver. and thats exactly what my vehicle is a high output SQ vehicle. I have my speakers in there proper location and it screams. I have my hardwood floors that look amazing. I am doing a 145.6 at 28hz on a TL which matches with my SPL labs meter. I didnt get my meter from radio shack it is a well respected company that has put hard work into there product and is within a tenth of a TL and for a much more respectable price. I am not competeing against you. nor do I care to truly respond to your crazy ways. I am over your arguments and ways of justifying.

correct the top of the foil is anodized for better appearance when the product is visible. If your putting it on your trunk lid a flat black will look much better then the shiny silver. like DJ said the reason for he color difference is because the videos were made before the change.

Foil color doesn't matter, just make sure the aluminum is on the outside with the butyl sticking to the sheet metal of your car

what seems to be the issue with the midbass? can you be more specific? I know as it's been said, it isn't much to go by for just youtube videos but.. here they are playing la roux without any tweets at all and here playing ghettoblaster on all levels, sub/mid/high http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LtATGtxHXI&feature=related now the first video is from singaboy, who is the same guy who had the big lms 18s in the eclipse ( most watched tc vid on youtube ) and he is a big SQ/tc guy and he recommended them and said they have a wide range and to not overlook them. I again, know that you can't really go by youtube videos alone.. but everyone who has posted videos about them or talked about them only has positive things to say about their range so I have to at least try them, they weren't that costly for the 8 that I have now regardless. I have no problems there sir ... That midbass sounded AWESOME !!! Especially the one playing in the cardboard enclosure !!! What was that thing tuned to ?? while I appreciate any response offering help, I detect a hint of sarcasm when I was truly asking what issue you had with their being no midbass from these? clearly they can play midbass just fine ( among ) other ranges so that is why I was asking. No need for the rash comment like that. Just explain what you meant. It may not be sarcasm, he normally has no clue about much of anything. Drew conclusions that they were 4" drivers. Amusing as those drivers do have a problem, but I wouldn't call it midbass. If they sound good to you then fine, but I wouldn't use them in a 2 way with a tweeter only and yes I have heard them. Couldn't agree more with Impious that a headunit is the way to go, but I'd still like to know more about the install before saying anything about the tweeter other than the one you selected is good but not at all for pairing with your midbasses. Oh, and videos do not share any useful information ever. Really not anything you can glean from them. Curious what you think you did though...

Speaking of polacks

sure things BOSS.... o yeah and welcome to ssa. why dont you log in..... before you make demands, welll............demands im just asking persons who own bls to give their opinion..its a request.

sure things BOSS.... o yeah and welcome to ssa. why dont you log in..... before you make demands,

Technically yes, you can invert a mid. Sound radiates from both sides of the cone equally, you just don't notice this most of the time because the rear of the driver is sealed off from the front by some type of enclosure or baffle. Having them inverted wouldn't affect which way the sound is "projected" or cause all of the sound to be radiated into the door, but it would affect the high(er) frequency response of the driver. The basket and motor will create reflection/interference issues at certain frequencies and probably affect dispersion patterns in the upper frequencies as well. Where you will run into problems depends on the dimensions of the motor and basket (as they are related to the wavelength of the sound wave at which issues will occur, which will ofcourse determine what frequencies you will have an issue at)......the higher you play in frequency the more problems you will run into. Not to mention you run the risk of hearing the mechanical noise from the driver (which again, is normally "trapped" inside of the enclosure or separated by the baffle so you don't hear it). So overall no, it's not a good idea. But in theory if you were using them strictly as midbass speakers it would possibly be feasible. Mids can be wired out of phase. In fact this is common practice. My midrange are out of phase with my midbass and tweeters. In my case, I had to wire them out of phase due to the phase shift inherent to the 2nd order slope of the crossovers. But often wiring one or both mids out of phase is done because of the differing distances of the mids to the other speakers and to the listening position in car audio. Higher frequencies don't radiate only from the center of the cone. They radiate from all of the cone, but at some point the wavelengths will become shorter than the diameter of the driver and beaming will begin to occur, which means there is an increasingly narrowing dispersion pattern. But below the point of beaming, the sound radiates in a relatively even pattern. Higher frequencies are more easily localized than lower (subbass) frequencies. This has little to do directly with the mounting orientation of the driver, assuming the frequency response (et al) was the same you wouldn't notice a difference between an inverted mid and a normal mid. But indirectly it can make a difference because of changes to frequency response and such. How we localize sound depends on the frequency and the dimensions of your head, among other things.