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Umm, no...again. You have yet again completely missed the point. Gains can be set, but music can't. This means you get to adjust your potential overall output level on every song that is recorded differently. Therefore on or off it doesn't matter as you still have to listen, which of course is the point of a stereo so that shouldn't be so hard. You are mixing things up even we tell you. I don't see how you came to the conclusion in the first quote when stating the dynamic portion of music and different recordings. At least you are listening here a bit Of course the focus on "taking it" or "properly driving a speaker" though is confusing. The whole purpose of setting up ANY stereo is to make it sound good. When it starts to sound bad something is wrong. That really is what is important here. Who cares about clipping if you can't hear it? And yes, there is really no such thing as no clipping. At some level it is happening and at some level it is not discernible. From a damage perspective it can raise the average power, but there is no real method for ensuring you don't overpower a speaker without listening, smelling, and watching. What the?? Tone change octave? You want the first harmonic to be larger than the fundamental? 5%, ROFL!! Seriously, where the hell do you come up with this nonsense? I know you work at a confused store, but do they not know anything?? 3/4 is also pointless. See my post above. If your headunit is clean at any certain level it is fine.

Thought I'd scare you into posting something more useful so we can actually help

You guys will like this. My daughter played all night volleyball this past weekend with her friends and herboy friend told her he did not want her to, she did and now he is mad because she does not respect his decisions. She told him too bad, my dad told me to live my life for me and not for any boy. Now the poor boy is all upset she told him that. I love having a mini me.

Jumbo shrimp exist. We will figure it out. How about an RX7/RX8? I actually fit in an 8, iirc. Fun car to ride in, when you get to ride with a race car driver.

If you didn't enjoy the W7, something was SERIOUSLY wrong with the install. It's an amazing driver. Fi's stuff is great as well. We should be happy they can still keep cranking out drivers for us little guys. You'd be amazed if you knew how much OEM work they do.

Jumbo shrimp exist. We will figure it out. How about an RX7/RX8? I actually fit in an 8, iirc. You'd be in the RX8 club with Aaron and Matt, lol.

Jumbo shrimp exist. We will figure it out. How about an RX7/RX8?

None of what you did was accurate not even close

Hmmm http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=55391&endYear=2009&keywordPhrases=convertible%2Cshelby&modelCode1=MUST&showcaseOwnerId=100009444&startYear=1981&makeCode1=FORD&numRecords=100&searchRadius=0&showcaseListingId=369212957&mmt=%5BFORD%5BMUST%5B%5D%5D%5B%5D%5D&listingId=353477440&Log=0

This is cool

I want a 2+2 in a non-depreciating form with capability for some performance. Ideas? Interior sucks here, but the drivetrain is easily mod-able: Interior needs love and requires an engine swap. If I found one with an LS in it, I'd buy it pronto: What else? Overall buy in ~$30k or less I'd prefer and I have to be able to put 5k mi or so on it a year and not worry about the value changing or any major non-planned repairs.

Don't use a DMM to set the gain. Set it by ear.

Neither. As stated, just use your ears. DMM's make no sense for setting gains.

L.e.d.'s in the box..

Personally I would forgo the DMM method and just utilize your ears. I would always set the gains on what you most use Aka while driving or playing with the car off just jamming. For the ear method, turn the head unit to where you normally listen to, adjust the gain until it sounds off or bad, then back it down till it stops sounding bad/audible distortion and that's your gain spot. But you still be vigilant in any scenario, so use your senses and you'll be fine.

Anxious to see what you have created!

Back home & making some noise Looking forward to the local show sat

Playing on just 3 subs! Cant wait to see what 4 will do...

Ya im gonna edit that out lol, cause my emphasis was on the electrical/power not the "Hearing" or "feeling" of it. Lmao thanks for calling me out on that! That was actually sounding completely ridiculous after re-reading what I had typed!

2 of 3 new Evils in from SSA. Just waiting on number 3 to fill the box. FOAD leads FTW!

i love how everyone looks back.. thinking.. what the fuck is back there.

Leaving tomorrow for Michigan to build this wall with David/TeamRamRod. Truck is loaded with equipment & I'm geeked up to make the Burban come alive again! We will be taking pics & I'm hoping he will post a build log here in our team subforum. This is going to be a nonstop weeks time build.

This was box number ~160 for me, and ive never once built 2 boxes the same.

NEVER thought this box was going to get the attention it has. I just wanted to do something unique. Im very thankful that my customers allow me to build these boxes and let me "go wild" and basically do what i want.

ok ... update... i really screwed the pooch on this one... so i had to have a tire replaced today... so i popped my truck to turn off my air ride so they could jack it up.. and look what i found.... . some asshole forgot to wire as coil on each of the subs...... it was my fault they cooked... i feel like such an ass clown. ... not only is this why they blew.... THIS IS WHY THEY METERED SO LOW!!!! (149.3) stay tuned guys... im reconing then hitting the meter again.... god i feel so stupid. oh and i also have a cracked rim

and no that had nothing to do with you .. after calling out the dip ship, he just went thru and did it again, as apposed to manning up

lol yeah i didn't think you would speak up you lil cunt

thats because i went through and marked them positive

you must be a loanly sad mother fucker to go thru my thread and mark my shit negative... any time you want to debate why you love me so much you take time out of your date to hate on me.. we can talk about it publicly.... ..... but im sure your a weak minded child, that will have nothing but fat insults and uneducated assumptions about my stereo and its performance..... but any time you decide to stop being a sneaky hating pussy ill be here to talk about it

well jon needs another sub to put to the ropes... i just got a big swinging cock of an amp

Nor one that is $355 shipped. Are you still going to make the 3500 rms version of the ethos? lord i hope so!!.... thats what i was just about to remind you guys of.. this is the first run of the first sub of this company... if this is the lowest sub in the series .. shits about to get fucking real ... in a major way.

im very very confidante that with fresh subs and testing i could match the sundown scores... but at any rate.. the nightshades could never be as musical or as cheap or honestly handle the abuse that i dished out to the ethos..... i have slinkied many nightshade coils..... the etho coil did not fail... it failed in another manor.. im not sure what gave yet.. but im shocked that the coil didnt unwind ...... ill let yall know what gave... but just know.. its my fault.... before i ever got these subs i told Q.. i would need recones .. because i was going to abuse the shit out of them.. and i did. i caused these to fail.

I am a 1 sub kind of guy. I'd say go with the biggest one sub size. IA 21?

you always want to set your gains with the car on. to say nothing of voltage drops to your amp when the car is off if you set up everything with the car off and then give another few volts to your amps you are now giving perhaps hundreds of watts extra to your subs/speakers (depending on setup) wich can push them past limits. as for the DDM stuff... i understand that using a meter to get an output voltage and KNOW that the amp is with in spec or to use a O scope to KNOW that the audio its playing is not clipping and with a amp clamp on the power wires you can see how much power the amp is taking and know if its past its limit - this seems like a PERFECT way to do it but... its not. consider that the music you play is always changing, the music from your ipod or off the radio can easily be pre-clipped. add to that at what point your head unit starts pushing past its limit on pre amp voltage and then factor in your amps ability to reproduce a perfectly clean audio source (which it will hardly ever get) and you come to the realization that regardless of what test tone you play or what song you have going with an oscop, the very next song may put it right into the conditions you JUST tested to keep you out of. on top of all that NONE of this tells you if you are properly driving the speaker, just because the amp, head unit, and processors are all with in "spec" does not mean the speaker can take what its being given. its a hard thing to wrap your head around when there are so many "how to set gains" and products that "detect clipping" out there but they just dont pucking work. turn stuff up conservatively until you get the audio sound you want out of your favorite song or if you truly want to play a test tone until you can hear the tone change octave - thats your ~5% distortion point (depending on how good your hearing is). then back it down a bit but dont expect to leave it there. as you play your music change your volume as you hear it distorting. the only time you can set it and forget it is when you set volume and gains with a decent head room e.g. not max volume, more like 3/4. given that and some good quality components then even if you do play a horridly clipped song it shouldn't kill everything.