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Or not at all. Perhaps you should reflect on phase and what cancellation is. Interference is one thing, but that will be minimal since the wavelength is so long. In a car 4x Vas is acceptable, 10x more than enough. 25x is absurd. I am not saying of course that there will be no change when you go up, but you are always chasing diminishing returns in a car anyways. As for the topic at hand, I also agree this is somewhat pointless to try. I understand the allure you think you are after, but IB, ported, sealed it really doesn't matter. What does is doing the install right and achieving the goal you want. Knocking out that much of a car to make a wall to have bass with a certain response is far from the logical way to achieve your goal. Remember as always, sub-bass is UBER easy to create nice, front stage not so much. If you are truly after a nice response, ignore the whole sub section and determine the front stage which will then determine the amount of bass you need to keep up.

Lets see that spl vehicle

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Anything I can't back calculate by hand I am mot interested. Grab winisd and learn how to use it. Well worth the time. Space first....box second...THEN shop for drivers.

If anybody remembers a certain Bronco back in the day that used the vehicle as the enclosure / port ??? Seen it ALOT back in the day, just wish I knew more about it.

Probaably. This millenial doesn't care for anything wireless as a general rule, that's for sure.

Tyler fade built a bad ass IB setup. Seen it at a world finals event. Put up some impressive numbers. Wasn't anything sound quality, but had some decent sound too. Just Saying Speaker boy, you my bro and all, but you really need to concentrate on latching onto that vehicle before making audio plans.

That thing was putting up some decent numbers

Apple owns beats...

The last picture was NOT on my phone. 1.4 Fstop ftmfw. Kitchen was a fucking mess...but you can hardly tell

Mmmm, dinner

Please do not wall a Subie wagon.

can u post a coherent topic plz?

Wurd,.... There is actually 20 16v bats

Going to competitions wasn't really about winning for the most part, but more for getting judges comments on my progress with the system. There's always room for improvement every time you get judged. Honestly gave me something to work towards for the next event. Wish I could find time to work on the truck I have now so I can start going to events again !!!

Yes sir. 1100 pounds, shipping weight. burban isnt gonna be happy lol. Also, ive done a few audio builds in my time. And this is the first time ive ever gone high volt. Skipped right to 18v LOL. Ive been told these 3800s come the fuck alive up there. Which is awesome because i think they do some great work at 12v. Im wondering about soft parts now, but, meh.... time will tell. Im hoping this gets to our 159.99 goal. Time will tell. Boards come out this weekend, and getting the bank in begins. Im hella stoked. Thanks for looking.

Stop posting until you read the whole post. I'm going to take measurements, and decide what design applies best. I'm sure, just to piss you off I could do four on the front baffle and four in a diamond configuration recessed in the center, opposed firing. Clearly I don't value your opinion, stop offering it. I give you hella bad rep when you say dumb stuff. Get your tongue out of M5's asshole lmao. Sean, I....got this itch man. I'd have to get a sedan to do IB if I don't get the wagon, and I reallllly like the wagons. I don't mind no backseat, and I'll still have a WHOLE trunk. I suppose another option is an EF hatch, but I really want another vehicle with AWD. Mmmm. I could even do six twelves and mount the amp on the front of the baffle, for super short wire runs. Basics is, six woofers, Lithium power, stained birch, and 5-8k rms. Vehicle dimensions and how crazy I can get with baffle design is gonna determine the size. I'll have enough bass, and for low to moderate listening, infinitely low response (the goal). Spose I could wall the Neer and do a sealed setup in the wagon to keep it light for the track. I'll know more when I get some measurements. Who else buys vehicles around the build and not the other way around lmao

I won't have 10x VAS but I'm sure I'll be satisfied with output. Two IB3's would still be plenty. One would be plenty. Once I get a free day, it's off to a dealership to measure an actual vehicle so I'll know what size constraints I'll be facing. I have no idea what you're trying to say about cancellation, I love opposed firing woofers. Sexy and sturdy. Clam shells rule. You sound like a highschooler who studies at best buy. Don't post on my thread with gibberish and bullshit. Do your research, or keep it to yourself. Look at your rep. Everyone thinks you're an idiot but you. Stop humiliating yourself. If you can't provide FACTS I have no interest in your "wisdom" scientific, mathematical evidence on how I'm wrong or eat my ass. Jesus fucking Christ you're dull. I push limits and learn to achieve a satisfactory result with less. Always after a lower note. G'day mate.

The reason I suggested two different subs, is because i don't think you will have room, for that many IB subs, of that size ,and the reason being, when the subs are on a baffle, the sound waves are forced to travel further to intersect. The smaller the baffle, the higher waves "upper frequencies" are no longer cancelling out as the baffle seperate's them. As you increase your baffle size, the longer it gets, the lower the waves that no longer cancel depending on 1/4 wavelength and total wavelength. The 1/4 wavelength is 8.5 feet, the total wavelength is 35 feet. So for the driver to recreate 34hz and up without any cancellation it would need to be 35 feet out from the sub, or a total of 75 feet in diameter. A Infinite baffle is a sealed room with a minimum airspace of 25 times the subs vas, so the sub does not see the enclosure. Anything less and the air acts as a spring.

You're an idiot.