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Thanks Cheese Will go and give it another try. This time, will go beyond halfway if I have to and see if that makes things any better. Will keep you updated

Ok guys had some time today to play with the gain. The news are not that good. I increased the gain a bit more, not half-way yet, but close. Still, with 4 clicks on the bass knob, the sub reachest its limit (I can go up to 5 but its a small improvement, I kept it at 4 to stay away from clipping). The only way I can make the sub sound like it did with my factory radio is to play around with the EQ. The way I have the EQ right now is 20hz (-1) 31.5hz (+1) 50hz (+2) 80(+2) 125 (+1). Everything else flat (20hz on -1 because I wanna play it safe and no need to increase that one). This is how I need the EQ to be in order for the bass to sound 90% of what it sounded like with the factory radio (plus the 4 clicks on the bass knob and subwoofer level on +6 of course). I feel like some songs need a +3 on the 50Hz band to sound as loud as they did with the factory radio. An important thing, I still havent set up the Auto EQ with TA. Was trying to figure out but couldnt find how. I guess I will have to read the manual (or if Bassahaulic could tell me how it would be great) Any comments?

[PLACE A LOT OF ENVY HERE] Great set diablo! Please install them and show us what this are able to do!

Thank you so much guys for the help! I really appreciate this! The radio is in standard mode. Bassahaulic, I was trying to remember who I saw with this radio on his signature! Nice to see you in this thread! Ku40, yeah thats what I thought. I have both RCAs (red and white) connected to the amp anyways so Im going to leave it on stereo. And now that you mention it, it makes sense. The factory radio and LOC are pretty much very different than connecting straight to the HU without amplified signal. Will spend a good time tuning the bass if not tonight, tomorrow. Thanks all! EDIT: Just checked the sundown 2000D and saw this (Input Sensitivity 200mV to 6V (+/- 5%) My HU has 5V preamp outputs, so does that mean the gain will pretty much have to be set past the middle? or that doesnt matter at all and I should just go ahead and set-and-test with the tone and forget about numbers and voltages?

Update Yes guys, the LEVEL setting was there, it only goes up to 6. Yes, bass improved and now much more comes out. Still not there compared to my factory radio (maybe 4/6 of my factory), but I was rushing so Im thinking I need to readjust the gains and play a 50Hz tone. Anyways, I'll keep you updated guys! Question while I find time to fix the gain: Should I leave the subwoofer setting on MONO or STEREO? (I only have 1 sub btw).

Notorious! How ironic! I was just giving a look at the manual and realized I had to go to the LPF and then move up to go to the subwoofer level setting! Anyways, cant wait to get home and start playing with this! Its probably on a really low number! Will come back with an update! Thanks!

I have triple checked that. RCA is going to Subwoofer out. No, increasing gain in the amp did not help. To give you an idea of how much I increased it, I brought it up from 8 o'clock (where I had it with my factory radio) to 10 o'clock and nothing. Played around with the bass knob too but nothing. After 4-5 clicks on the bass knob, bass just stops getting louder (but still only 1/6 as loud of what the sub would get with my factory radio). Im lost now

So far I have left all (front, rear, sub) filters on default which is 80hz. I have my LPF (the sub one) slope at 12db and the front and rear slopes at 18db. Besides that, I have also changed "SUB" from OFF to ON and SUB MONO to SUB STEREO. My RCAs, since the sundown 2000D doesnt have a specific L or R, I just have it like this: White RCA from HU to bottom input RCA, red RCA from HU to top input RCA. Let me know if Im doing something wrong or if you need more info.

I spent like 30 mins going though most settings, for some reason I couldnt find the subwoofer level. I think I have to take a look at the manual. But thanks for the help, all comments are welcomed No bass makes me be worried

So I just upgraded from a factory HU that I had connected to my Sundown 2000D with a LOC. With my factory HU, all I had to do was bring the volume to 12 (75%) and then get my bass knob and increase it 4 clicks. That was loud bass and loud mids/highs with no distortion. Today I just got a Pioneer DEH-P800PRS. Installed it, took out the LOC and connected the Rockford RCA cable to the Subwoofer output. Reseted the headunit to default (by pressing the small button on the front of face plate), started listening to FM, CDs and even my iPod and realized there is no bass. I checked the LPF and its on default 80hz. I havent touched any filter on my amp. I even thought I had to increase the gain since the new radio is 5v preamp outputs. I did but nothing. The only way to bring bass to the subwoofer is to increase the 31.5, 50 and 80hz bands which I honestly dislike since most people here say EQs are used for cuts not for boosts. Whats going on???

But he should still upgrade it to 120 right?

Ok So he has to change that 60amp fuse before installing anything. Thats a must do. But before telling him to go buy a 120amp fuse, how do I know if the Rockford Fosgate 4Gauge wire can handle a 120amp fuse? The kit came with the 60amp fuse he has right now, will it be ok if he just replaces the 60amp fuse with a 120amp fuse? Also, does it matter what fuse brand or model he gets? I thought about KnuKoncepts, but with shipping it comes out to be like $11 lol

Ok hold on He is running only one sub (I think something around 1000watts rms), and he is not going to be using the 2000D to its full 2000watts (at least not now, he needs to upgrade the wiring and electricals). Right now, he cant upgrade to 1/0 (I think he is saving for it right now) So if he plans on keeping the 4gauge (which is from a Rockford Fosgate full install kit so its not a cheap cable) and use like 1000watts RMS from the 2000D, should he get a 120amp fuse? Also, are you saying that he should get another fuse holder with another 120amp fuse? So that he has a fuse on each end of the power wire (one on the battery terminal and one right before the amp)?

4 gauge for power and ground Sundown 2000D only one fuse holder It is ~6 inches away from the battery terminal

So my friend just got a new Sundown amp. The recommended fuse size is 200 amp. He just told me on the phone he currently has a 60amp fuse on his fuse holder. He asked me if it was fine to use what he had, I said I was going to ask around first to see if it was ok to do so. Is it ok to use a 60 amp fuse or will there be any problem/risk or anything?

Got it

I will speak with Bravox today. I want to place the order in the next 48 hours. Mark and I have to finalize exactly the quantity of items we are going to order. Sounds great! Cant wait to replace my factory speakers!

Yeah I was also thinking about just forgetting about 18s and go for a single 12 dcon with a khaotik enclosure. Thats like $350 we are talking about. The problem is that later on I wouldnt be able to sell the enclosure and most people around my place dont have an idea of who SSA are. Wouldnt pay much for it if I try to sell it. Also, idk how if the DCON would be able to handle 1000watts RMS since its rated at 300 I would be giving it 3 times the continuous power. Im thinking about saving the money, and go big when I get all my money together. According to you guys how should the car electrical upgrade process should be? in what order? Alternator Big 3 Battery

Hey Denim is there any expected time of arrival for the next shipment?

Oh man, why out of the sudden is everyone trolling at me? Im here for help man I see. So it was a myth all this time!. Something learned today! So what you are saying is that given the same test bed, same conditions and same power (let say 1000watts RMS) a 12" will hit a 30Hz note as good as an 18"? Because I learned in this forum that there is no need for that one sub. Heck, it reminds me of the Jackhammer. If it was that good, dont you think people would be getting it instead of two or more BTLs, Mayhems or SMDs? and I also think that space is a big issue for most.

is that worse or better than welding ones?

EDIT: Mistaken post.

Thank you! I will keep an eye on this thread. If you pm me to notify me about availability, it would be great! I definitely dont want to miss this opportunity again.

Mark!!! Denim!!! PLEASE BRING MORE CS60CF's!!!!! Omg, I cant believe I missed this. If I had a gun right now, I would shoot myself.

You got a point Thanks for clarification. If I ever get 4 components for each door, ill come here and ask for the wiring setup lol