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Hey fellow SSA members, tonight i am devoted to learn this to the fullest, so there will be a lot written.. and questions as i go along, big thanks goes out to ANeonRider because this is all based off his How To: Set your Amplifier Gain - SSA Car Audio Forum (I'll be working at the thread for about 30min to an hour before posting) THIS IS GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS THAT ARE DUMB... but i need to ask them to get it clear and have no doubts. To figure out what voltage you should set the gains to, multiply the RMS power of the amplifiers output by the impedance of the speaker, then find the square root of that number. -- I'm going to be using: PDX 4.100 Alpine Type R comps *4 ohm* So my speakers will be 4 ohms.. so i need to multiply the RMS from the amp by the ohms of my speaker which is 4 ohms Well... 100 x 4 = 400... square root of 400 is 20 So the voltage of my amp should be 20 volts Okay, now we have that established. (20v) -WHAT TEST TONE DO I NEED???? A. Below in yellow it says "Subwoofer volume control on the headunit and/or a bass knob set to the maximum before you set the gains on the SUB AMP. 1. But........ the same for front stage amp, right? 2. I am not setting the gain for a sub amp..... so i don't have to put the subwoofer volume to the max right? -- do i set anything in replace of subwoofer volume to max? 3. No bass knob with my amp B. Below in yellow it says "Take the leads from the DMM and put them on the outputs from the amp" 1. On the PDX is says input -- same thing? 2. How do i touch the leads from the DMM to the outputs on the amp? 3. Can i put both leads on one output? 4. Or does it have to be on 1on1 -- 1on1? C. Below in yellow it says "Set the gain so that the outputs of the amplifier equal the voltage you found above. This is a MUST." 1. What setting on the DMM should it be set too? 2. i turn the gain with a little screwdriver untill it reads 20v, right? Setting the Gain(s) To set the gain(s), you need two things: --1. A DMM --2. A test tone CD ---Now, to set the gain(s): --1. Start the vehicle, and pop the test tone CD in the head unit. --2. DO NOT hook up the sub(s) or speaker(s) ---Now, time to set up the head unit. -----a. Car turned on. -----b. If the loudest you listen to your music is 22/35 with bass @ +3 and treble @ 0 on, use those settings. -----c. Subwoofer volume control on the headunit and/or a bass knob set to the maximum before you set the gains on the sub amp. --4. Take the leads from the DMM and put them on the outputs from the amp. --5. Set the gain so that the outputs of the amplifier equal the voltage you found above. This is a MUST.

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I like your choice of words That's always good to hear though that a company is serious about helping their customers and not screwing them over. I've called them many times for help, got what i needed and more. Almost makes me want to slap an /////Alpine sticker on my truck lol

1-800-291-4080 /////Alpine support doesn't fuck around, very good people. EDIT: Sundown is a great company, but.. just because someone has an issue with an amp that isn't with their company, you shouldn't be no help and say go buy Sundown. /////Alpine is great

The equipment is already in the mail, sooo guess i wont be getting them. Thanks for the replies guys.

I don't really know how this stuff works just yet, but.. would i be able to install these with my front stage? I would have to buy 4 though, correct? -- I'm guessing 4 of these would be over kill? Front Stage: (2) Alpine Type R 6.5 component sets Front Stage Amp: (1) Alpine PDX 4.100

Nice rear view mirror sticker. If it was me, i would have moved the terminals in a lower corner.

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I want that amp just because of the alien head!!! EDIT: They seem to be legit, world wide? Someca America and B52 During the month of June, in Miami, USA, Someco America and B52 made a presentation of new products, where all distributors in the continent were present. Many thanks to all of them for having participated of this wonderful event. B52 in the 6th Sound Championship-Bady Bassitt On June – 8th , B52 Has participated in the 6th Sound Championship, such event was held in the City of Bady Bassitt, countryside of Sao Paulo - Brazil. This great event was visited for more than 15,000 people. B52 has participated exhibiting the VW Golf and the Soundtruck B52. Thank you very much to the public for attending this wonderful event! Carnival parade ground of Anhembi - São Paulo The B52 Soundtruck made success in the night of the May 27th in AutoShow Tuning, Old and Special, event performed all Tuesdays in the Sambódromo of Anhembi in the city of São Paulo. With their 13.000 watts of power, The B52 Soundtruck amazed visitors, and it was the great prominence of the night for the level of presented equipment. B52 in the Salão de Acessórios 2008 From May 20th through May 25th - 2008, B52 had participated in the “Salão de Acessórios 2008 Convention” where more than 70,000 attendees visited in a greatly honored event held at “Expo Center Norte” in Sao Paulo - Brazil. One of the presented automobiles, a “B52 VW Golf”, was chosen among 300 other cars of the highest quality, as “The Best Car of the Salão de Acessórios”. The trophy was given personally by Emerson Fittipaldi. In addition the B52 VW Golf, also received a trophy as an “Outstanding Automobile” of the Salão, granted by IASCA (Association that groups companies of the industry and governs sound competitions) On the other hand, “B52 Booth” was chosen as “STRIKING STAND” of the event, awarded with a trophy. Finally, the “B52 promoter” was chosen as “Garota Tuner” of the convection which brought more attention toward our Booth. Congratulations to Brazil by its excelled work and dedication, indeed , all its achievements. B52 in The Garage Motorshow 2008 B52 has participated of event "Garage Motorshow 2009". This event, held in Buenos Aires from April 24th to May 4th, gathered the best sportive cars, last generation vehicles, tuning and classic cars.For nine days, the visitors to this event could appreciate the brand booth and the B52 Soundtruck fully equipped with our 2008/2009 line. JC Electronic Distributors 2008 On April 23 / 2008, B52 Car Audio & Security has participated in the Traditional Annual Product Presentation of prestigious Importer J.C. Electronic Distributors in Puerto Rico. The mega event was organized and presided by the President of The Company, Mr. Johnny Carrasquillo and assisted by his incredible team. After a succulent cocktail, live Shows and a great Dinner, the new line of products/2008 was presented, by JC Staff, Mr. Sergio Palencia, Product Manager and International Sales Manager from B52 respectively. The great concurrence was surprised by the great variety of products that J.C. Distributors and B52 commercialize, emphasizing in full line of security systems for automobiles. We are thankful and we congratulated to our commercial ally for all the effort, professionalism and commitment demonstrated in this super event. B52 in CES 2008 For the 4th year running, B52 was present at CES (January 7-10, 2008) the most important electronics show in the world which every year takes place in Las Vegas, Nevada. More than 100,000 people visited the show site, where two vehicles fully equipped with our brand were a great attractive. With an area of 1,200 sq ft and a structure more than 20 ft high, B52 presented the new product line 2008-09.

Are you sure that's the model number? Google showed up no results, plus stop yelling please.. my ears are sensitive from my system dude..

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LOL good stuff. Would you like a wiring guide to make sure everything else is connected right? You know make sure your speakers arent out of phase and what not? Just need to know year, make and model of the vehicle. Yes, if you don't mind. I already have it apart. Uploading pictures now. Truck is in sig. Constant 12V+ Orange Switched 12V+ Yellow Ground Black Illumination Gray Dimmer Brown Antenna Trigger Pink Left Front (+) Tan Left Front (-) Gray Right Front (+) Light Green Right Front (-) Dark Green Left Rear (+) Brown Left Rear (-) Yellow Right Rear (+) Dark Blue Right Rear (-) Light Blue Here you go pal, hope this helps.... I have an orange wire unconnected, i remember hooking everything up and not remembering where it goes so i left it undone. I also have a black wire unconnected. Orange should be where your yellow wire goes, but if that wire is bad (reasoning for running a new wire) then you need to just cover it up. Black should ground,.......should. Wait, i don't follow.. Is the yellow wire coming from the truck bad? or the wire coming from the head unit bad? Do i change the orange with the yellow or not? Cover what up? EDIT: Also, there is a black wire from my head unit that isn't connected.. Should i ground that (guessing it is a ground wire) Also, what should i do about the black wire coming from the truck? Ok. The yellow wire from your kenwood needs to be connected to a constant 12 volt wire (stays hot all the time). The orange wire in the vehicle should be the constant 12 volt wire, but it could be bad or a fuse could be blown for that wire. You mentioned someone ran a new hot wire from the battery to the radio......this wire...whatever color it may be needs to be connected to the yellow wire on the kenwood. The red wire on the kenwood needs to be connected to a wire that cuts on/off with the ignition key. The "factory" vehicle wire should be yellow. Yellow wire from kenwood to batt wire Yellow wire from truck to red wire from kenwood Correct? Yes. Correct. That should fix your problem as long as all the wires are good. Hope this helps....im going to bed. lol I'm rewiring them now... laptop + wifi FTW! I'll see whether it works ina sec thank you 4runner!!!!!!!

LOL good stuff. Would you like a wiring guide to make sure everything else is connected right? You know make sure your speakers arent out of phase and what not? Just need to know year, make and model of the vehicle. Yes, if you don't mind. I already have it apart. Uploading pictures now. Truck is in sig. Constant 12V+ Orange Switched 12V+ Yellow Ground Black Illumination Gray Dimmer Brown Antenna Trigger Pink Left Front (+) Tan Left Front (-) Gray Right Front (+) Light Green Right Front (-) Dark Green Left Rear (+) Brown Left Rear (-) Yellow Right Rear (+) Dark Blue Right Rear (-) Light Blue Here you go pal, hope this helps.... I have an orange wire unconnected, i remember hooking everything up and not remembering where it goes so i left it undone. I also have a black wire unconnected. Orange should be where your yellow wire goes, but if that wire is bad (reasoning for running a new wire) then you need to just cover it up. Black should ground,.......should. Wait, i don't follow.. Is the yellow wire coming from the truck bad? or the wire coming from the head unit bad? Do i change the orange with the yellow or not? Cover what up? EDIT: Also, there is a black wire from my head unit that isn't connected.. Should i ground that (guessing it is a ground wire) Also, what should i do about the black wire coming from the truck? Ok. The yellow wire from your kenwood needs to be connected to a constant 12 volt wire (stays hot all the time). The orange wire in the vehicle should be the constant 12 volt wire, but it could be bad or a fuse could be blown for that wire. You mentioned someone ran a new hot wire from the battery to the radio......this wire...whatever color it may be needs to be connected to the yellow wire on the kenwood. The red wire on the kenwood needs to be connected to a wire that cuts on/off with the ignition key. The "factory" vehicle wire should be yellow. Yellow wire from kenwood to batt wire Yellow wire from truck to red wire from kenwood Correct?

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LOL good stuff. Would you like a wiring guide to make sure everything else is connected right? You know make sure your speakers arent out of phase and what not? Just need to know year, make and model of the vehicle. Yes, if you don't mind. I already have it apart. Uploading pictures now. Truck is in sig. Constant 12V+ Orange Switched 12V+ Yellow Ground Black Illumination Gray Dimmer Brown Antenna Trigger Pink Left Front (+) Tan Left Front (-) Gray Right Front (+) Light Green Right Front (-) Dark Green Left Rear (+) Brown Left Rear (-) Yellow Right Rear (+) Dark Blue Right Rear (-) Light Blue Here you go pal, hope this helps.... I have an orange wire unconnected, i remember hooking everything up and not remembering where it goes so i left it undone. I also have a black wire unconnected. Orange should be where your yellow wire goes, but if that wire is bad (reasoning for running a new wire) then you need to just cover it up. Black should ground,.......should. Wait, i don't follow.. Is the yellow wire coming from the truck bad? or the wire coming from the head unit bad? Do i change the orange with the yellow or not? Cover what up? EDIT: Also, there is a black wire from my head unit that isn't connected.. Should i ground that (guessing it is a ground wire) Also, what should i do about the black wire coming from the truck?

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LOL good stuff. Would you like a wiring guide to make sure everything else is connected right? You know make sure your speakers arent out of phase and what not? Just need to know year, make and model of the vehicle. Yes, if you don't mind. I already have it apart. Uploading pictures now. Truck is in sig. Constant 12V+ Orange Switched 12V+ Yellow Ground Black Illumination Gray Dimmer Brown Antenna Trigger Pink Left Front (+) Tan Left Front (-) Gray Right Front (+) Light Green Right Front (-) Dark Green Left Rear (+) Brown Left Rear (-) Yellow Right Rear (+) Dark Blue Right Rear (-) Light Blue Here you go pal, hope this helps.... I have an orange wire unconnected, i remember hooking everything up and not remembering where it goes so i left it undone. I also have a black wire unconnected.

Whats the word? Do i switch them around?

Command Center. Just got in the truck. Unpacked Supplies. Here we go. Face Plate is off. Dash off. Head Unit out. Yellow wire connected to a Yellow wire. Red wire connected to wire connected to batt.

LOL good stuff. Would you like a wiring guide to make sure everything else is connected right? You know make sure your speakers arent out of phase and what not? Just need to know year, make and model of the vehicle. Yes, if you don't mind. I already have it apart. Uploading pictures now. Truck is in sig.

Damn.. i'm going to take it apart now, i'll take pictures to life up the thread a little.

A good friend of mine told me the same thing. Go with 2 12's! You are going to want more anyway! I just don't want to overpower my mids and highs. I've been in vehicles where all you hear is the bass, this is NOT what I want! So say I have to 12's what is the difference between turning down the gain on the amp to the sub and actually turning it down on the deck? BTW to answer your question it's not my first sub setup, I have 1 memphis audio 10 right now but I want more then that obviously. I have never heard your front stage nor the sub stage you are asking about, but.. i wouldn't worry too much about over powering your front stage. I don't know if your H/U has EQ settings, like rock, pop, top 40, natural, etc etc but these settings, (EQ settings) will help you balance your audio equipment so nothing "over powers" anything.