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It messes up the frequency response. That's okay to you? What it shows me is that you haven't heard a system that was setup properly. When comparing not so good to not so good and all around you then surely you might have a preference for one or the other. Perhaps my goals are strange. When I listen to music, I want to listen to the music. Perhaps MY goals are strange? When I listen to music I want 26hz notes to rock my ribs and for the vocals to be loud and clear. Not having perfect imaging and little anomalies in the frequency response doesn't bother me at all. Just like if you couldn't play into the 20's at full volume that might not bother you at all but to me that's a problem. Just because my subs may play lower than yours doesn't mean that you set yours up wrong...you like it just fine that way. You're assuming that a "system that was setup properly" sounds the best to everybody. You can't do that, just like I can't assume that 26hz at 140+db sounds great to everybody. Personal preference is my key point. But if you happened to sit in a vehicle designed with proper imaging and flat response, I'm sure you would love it. Obviously excessive bass throws everything else out the window, but it's possible to have a setup that does everything well, just a compromise back and forth if you want sq or spl. It's like saying I like watching movies on a tv, normally I watch DVDs, but I don't like Blu-ray. I want it to sound kinda good, but not the full experience. Flame on...

We were talking about building new door panels, which could technically house everything, but my guess is, less is more? On the doors, we could position the tweeter and midrange into any direction. The woofers (5.25") could be rotated up a little bit, fire more towards the opposing listening seat, or something.

Ipod integration is sick.

Thanks for the tips guys. Should make things a little easier. And now I see why a 3way would be a Bitch.

Fuck you. Hahaha.

Agreed.

Dammit, I don't wanna look through 20 ihop pages Haha.

Fiberglass resin weakens mdf wood, but it makes the surface smoother.

What's that youtube video of the guy serving hot tea? Someone posted it in here a few weeks ago.

I'm glad, because I'm not trying to steer you away or put you down in any way.

Awfully elitist don't you think? Nobody EVER "does it right" on their first try. He's not dumb. Just eager and uneducated like we all started. I'm simply stating: don't slack when designing the enclosure, or spend the money and have someone do it correctly. I'm not being an Elitist... I apologize if I personally offended you. If you installed new speakers, you wouldn't just twist the wires together and wrap some electrical tape on it, would you? Spend an extra five minutes and solder everything. If you were designing a ported enclosure with a 35hz tune, but didn't bother to account for driver & port displacement, think you'd still be near your 35hz? I'm not being a dick, all I'm saying is: take your time and do it right the first time... or don't bother doing it yourself.

NS-1, for Sean.

Try it lower, 80hz seems is pretty high. Also, less is more on slopes. I have it at 50hz with 12db/octave slope. With the power you have the ER18's should definitely take it. Not sure if your EA4000 is identical to mine, but on mine you can't defeat the crossover, so I set it to 30hz. Mines set low enough on the amp that's not an issue. Ill mess with the bottom once im content with the mid to tweeter XO

Haven't touched phase or eq at all. Just crossover and slopes. 80hz, 18db slope. 1750hz, 18db slope. Rocking my pants off.

Sweet adrian, I always love seeing your work. And lol about competing against another build done by you Haha. Okay I just tried some new crossover points. OMFG so fucking awesome!!!! Wanna talk about midbass? A cd on my passenger seat is moving ROFL. so happy right now

What mids are you using? That's kinda low on the upper end for my taste(1250) but could definitely be appropriate depending on your speaker. Also keep in mind that the steepest slope is not always the best. You may find that a more shallow slope and lower/higher crossover point is much better (on the low or high end). Are you able to adjust your tweet crossover? For the upper end on your mids you may find it easier to get your initial point with no tweet at all, so you can tell when the mids break up easier, especially if you have a hearty tweet. Well I've done about 2 hours of testing today and it's getting better. I still need to find out which driver is making a "rip" sound at higher volume. I think I'll disconnect the tweeters and that'll tell me soon enough. Mids are exodus ex-anarchy, tweets are peerless hds. Raising the crossover point and lowering the slope has helped.

At first, I could switch it to defeat and go WTF this sounds so much better then active lol... But I have plenty of time and this is a good thing for me to tweak and mess with, instead of cutting up door panels or fiberglassing dash just for something to do. Whatcha got planned?

So there's a cutout in the sheet metal in the lower right hand corner, with a depth of 2.5" or so. Between that and a baffle over a new door panel, you'd have an easy 3-4" to play with for depth. And since the motor could tuck in that panel, you could probably fit a 8" driver relatively easy without having it stick out super far. I'm thinking: new wood panel, right hand corner circular cutout. Then an 8" mdf baffle (or whatever size driver you end up using) glued down. Then UPOL filler on the sides of the baffle down to the wood panel until it's smooth. Then cutouts for armrest and door lock. Attach plastic tabs around edges, wrap in new vinyl, attach top plastic weather piece. Only thing is the speaker would go right where the cup holder was... Any way, lets see what you end up using and well go from there.

Raised the crossover point, lowered the slope. Sounds much better.

I'll check out neon indian and those posted by Sean. UPS showed up at like 6. Starting wiring everything and within ten minutes it was dark. Finally finished everything up, setup my baseline crossover points, played it, wasn't impressed at all. One thing that sucks, you can't just go to a menu and adjust the xover points, you have to start all over... HPF: 60hz, 24db/slope mid crossed at 2500hz 24db/slope. It sounded like the tweeter almost wasn't even playing. At higher volume, there was a ripping sort of sound. HPF: 60hz, 24db/slope mid crossed at 2000hz 24db/slope. better HPF: 60hz, 24db/slope mid crossed at 1500hz 24db/slope. sounded more full, at higher volume it was still crisp, no "ripping" sound. HPF: 60hz, 24db/slope mid crossed at 1250hz 24db/slope. a tad better then before. Still have to adjust the channel gains. Going to play around more with the crossover points and slopes in the am, don't even want to touch the EQ until I'm satisfied with xovers. But as of now, It went from complete shit, 20 minutes later, way more midbass, big improvement on the higher spectrum vocals, etc. So yeah, now the fun begins as Sean put it.

That's awesome. Flex everywhere.

I refresh SSA so much, I'm surprised the IP board software doesn't see it as a DOS attack.

He just left my house an hour ago. I know they're quick, but it'll take him a little longer to get to you. FUCK YOU. At my old house they usually arrived around 4-5. Later if it was holidays. At my new house, they get here around 3.... until today. I hate working in the dark, on the bright side, maybe it'll be a tad cooler.

Lol, well I'm still looking for some reggae.

Booties isn't bad.