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Depending on what you are trying to do with your setup, you MAY be able to get away with not upgrading the Alt since you are a novice. If you have the extra money I would def recommend getting it done, but you will 100% want to add a battery or two. This will help your electrical system. As far as an amplifier, look at the Sundown Audio SAZ-2500D. Thats my 2 cents on your personal situation. Also, if no one has recommend sound deadner to you, it will enhance your setup as well. I would look into getting a DYNAMAT/BALLASTIC/ROADKILL application installed throughout your trunk at a minimum.

I think he means SKAR makes the subs and Subtilis sells them. In a sense you are correct Steve. What I meant is that I run two completely separate companies. I am in retail and manufacturing, and this business is completely separate from retail . My retail front will sell the subs just like any other of my dealers would.

I own Subtilis Audio which is a separate entity from SKAR Audio (Skar is a manufacturing company, Subtilis Retail). So yes this is the same sub, but it is separate from Subtilis Audio, not a copy. I am confused, you are having a pre-order on the first product, but it is the same product as a different company that had a pre-order on that product? Sorry for the confusion. Same EXACT Product, but the company name SKAR is for the new manufacturing line (subs, amps, etc) and Subtilis Audio is for the Retail line. I just wanted the subwoofer to be a part of its own entity so people would not get confused with the retail side of things. Same product and same pre order!

They pre-ordered the sub and will get it , it was necessary to make the retail and production company have different names, and the customer's were updated on the fact. It was really only a name change to clear up any confusion between the two companies.

I own Subtilis Audio which is a separate entity from SKAR Audio (Skar is a manufacturing company, Subtilis Retail). So yes this is the same sub, but it is separate from Subtilis Audio, not a copy.

For this Model of Driver we will be going into a 10" and 15" as well but they will not be here until closer to Christmas time, so for now just 12's. Although it is possible something may happen sooner , I would say Xmass time. These 12's sure can take a beating for a 600 Watt Woofer! A 4" coil driver would be awesome too Looks nice, I might have to pick one up and test her out for you! Sounds good, let me know . Would love some people to post reviews!

We certainly will be launching big boys and little guys down the road , however I have no ETA on them.

For this Model of Driver we will be going into a 10" and 15" as well but they will not be here until closer to Christmas time, so for now just 12's. Although it is possible something may happen sooner , I would say Xmass time. These 12's sure can take a beating for a 600 Watt Woofer!

I will go edit the first post with some enclosure recommendations . Thanks for all the support so far. This is really a welcoming community!

In a series of new subwoofers to be released by SKAR Audio LLC., the VVX-12 is the first in the lineup! It is our exclusive daily subwoofer that was built in partnership with Jacob of Sundown Audio. This woofer is built to take abuse beyond it's rated power handling of 600 Watts RMS! You will find all of the technical specifications of the driver below, as well as Pre-Order information, which won't last long! SKAR AUDIO VVX-12 CURRENT ETA : Production has finished and drivers are in transit, 25-30 Days Ship time from source to our facility! Presale Ends August 25th, 2010! Pricing MSRP : $239.99 Pre-Order by August 25th : $140 Each Shipped in Lower 48 (Message or Email for International Quote) If you plan on pre-ordering more then 1 Subwoofer 2-4 Subwoofers : $135 Each 4-6 Subwoofers : $130 Each Shipped 6-20 Subwoofers : $125 Each Shipped Rated Power Handling : 600 Watts RMS Motor Depth : 85mm (~3.34") and a 12" 12 Spoke Frame (~3.25" Deep) = Total Depth ~6.6" Spider : Dual Layer High % Nomex Content Progressive Spider 50mm WW on a 2.5" Diameter Former. Spider on production model is relatively stiff. Available in.. : D2 and D4 Model's Enclosure Recommendations Ported : 1.75 CuFt Per Driver after displacement of sub. Tuned ~36hz Sealed : .8-.9 CuFt Per Drive after displacement of sub. Unique Cooling System This Subwoofer has a unique voice coil air flow system with no vent flaring on the back plate. Instead, Jacob designed a system in which the top of pole has an enormous flare and the coil former has vent holes. This creates a nice flow patern through the holes and out the pole (vent). This allows less machining when making the sub and works very well! That system combined with a chrome finish allows for a much prettier finish then most driver's! The VVX-12 has a progressive suspension to help prevent mechanical damages. This includes a triple joint re-enforcement ring to hold this joint strongly together at pretty much any power level you throw at them! The VVX-12 Is a great daily driver and will work well in both sealed and vented enclosures. While the driver was tested in both sealed and ported enclosures pre-production, it shined in the vented enclosures on around 600 Watts continuous power. We threw more power then rated at this driver for an extended period of time and it held up without breaking a sweat! Fms : 22.1Hz Res : 101.8 Re : 3.8 Qms : 4.57 Qes : 0.45 Qts : 0.41 Rms : 10.0 Kg/s Cms : 0.16 mm/N Mms : 330.8 gr Nref : 0.14% Bl : 19.8 SPL : 83.3 dB VAS : 59.2 L Rp : 33.3 Lp : 60.0 mH Cp : 1126.1 uF Le : 3.37 mH Logo Information The Subwoofer in the pictures is the way the driver will look, however the prototype did not have the logo put on it during testing. If you can picture the logo in our forum header across the center that is how the subwoofers will look. We will post pictures as soon as they come in, but use this generalization for pre order reasons. The VVX-12 Will be across the bottom. Free Air Testing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inte_l2wRgA Thank you for taking interest in SKAR Audio. We started this company to bring you the best customer service and products possible! If you have any question's please feel free to contact us. We look forward to being a part of the SSA community and a vendor here. Regards, SKAR Audio