Crich03

Yeah the price is WAYYYY too much and I would never pay retail for them unless I won the lottery lol

What problems were people having with the surround? Because I might try to get some for my next setup

^^ I bought a SAX 1200d from db-r and it is amazing no issues whatsoever from the amp and db-r's customer service is awesome

Thanks for making an awesome place for us bass heads to be able to learn more about our great hobby.

I agree with that on the amps if I wanted to pay 1k for an amp I would get a SAZ 3500 or a Crescendo 5500 instead of a JL 1000/1. I would even get a RF T2500BDCP

Not a JL fan? Negative. They cool. But meh... I like trying different woofers I'm on my 8th brand of subs in 3 years lol... After I'm done with my JL phase I want to try SSA Icons then AA Havoks or mayhems. The Mayhems will be silly loud. I think so too but I have to build up my electrical in my car and add a lot of deadener to my car before I can jump at a mayhem lol

Not a JL fan? Negative. They cool. But meh... I like trying different woofers I'm on my 8th brand of subs in 3 years lol... After I'm done with my JL phase I want to try SSA Icons then AA Havoks or mayhems.

Not a JL fan?

The W6 was way louder than I thought is was going to be, and with the detail it sounds like a concert in my car now. They have a new fan/nuthugger lol

Never mind I forgot you don't build boxes anymore

Their pricing is one issue, but the main reason is their popularity. For quite some time, MANY people ran them and considered them the best. They quickly grew from a small company to one of, if not the best sub manufacturer in the industry. The W7 is still in a class of it's own. There are comparable products, but very few on the same level as the W7. JL has ALWAYS been a B&M company and they have worked very hard to protect their products and their dealers. Nothing holds it's value like a JL product. I can't wait till I try the W7. As many as I see for $300 and $350 on CL I might have to grab 2 12's and put them to use lol

I have the W6V2's

I had a Fi BL 15. I traded it through Craigslist to get the W6's the BL isnt a very good choice for jazz anyway Id like to get my hands on some of them w6's as well Yeah after buying it I wished I would've bought the Q. Don't get me wrong the BL is an amazing driver and was stupid loud, but it doesn't really have the clarity of the W6 Definitely not meant to be a sound quality driver, but it performs great for me, which is slammin lows and pounding double bass Looks like you made a good trade through I really couldn't believe that someone was trading me 2 W6's for just 1 Fi BL lol

I agree with you. I didn't realize how long each iteration of their W6 and W7 line last. The W6V2 released in like 2004 and the W7 has been out for 10 years and the technology they use is still relevant. They have a new fan.

Hopefully I can get my hands on some W7's so I can hear those too.

I had a Fi BL 15. I traded it through Craigslist to get the W6's the BL isnt a very good choice for jazz anyway Id like to get my hands on some of them w6's as well Yeah after buying it I wished I would've bought the Q. Don't get me wrong the BL is an amazing driver and was stupid loud, but it doesn't really have the clarity of the W6

After hearing them for myself I agree lol

I had a Fi BL 15. I traded it through Craigslist to get the W6's

They blend in so well my wife likes the music loud in my car now lol

BTW I traded my Fi BL 15 to get these 12 inch W6's

First I want to say I love these woofers and after trying them I don't understand why they get so much hate. I've played rock, country, jazz, rap, r&b, and blues. The subs played every note with great detail and clarity. Right now I'm running them with a Sundown Audio SAX 1200d at 1 ohm, and I'm just blown away with how loud they are and how great they sound. If these subs sound this amazing in a ported prefab box(1.25 cubic ft per sub) I can't wait until I get one built.

GREAT PRICE BTW!!!

Is the SP4 more of a SQ oriented driver than the BTL?

I didn't know his soft parts was that bad. Learn something new everyday.

LMAO y'all always give good advice I'll leave the subs alone