Yeah, true although I'm going from entry level low end mtx crap that was rated 200wrms per sub and i was only feeding both of them together only 250rms.. so way underpowered that were in a sealed enclousre from my understanding you can get way louder ported. I'm also kinda thinking the SA-12 is more what im looking for cause i hear it's spl oriented(i don't wanna have to upgrade my electrical though..) but i guess i won't really know till i see what dcon's are capable of since i've only used low end 12's.