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Thanks!

What is HDF? Ohh yea I remember people saying Trupan MDF. I'm gonna look it up now.

Really?? I thought it was a lot more. Maybe ill just stick with mdf then since it's cheaper.

For my box for 2 12" xcons I want to something that is lighter than mdf. What are some other types of wood people use to build light weight boxes? I was looking at Baltic birch 13 ply that can be ordered from my local hardware store at my dads for around 95 shipped there. At the Home Depot by my house has birch (not baltic) 5 ply. How much better is 13 ply than the 5? I want to call the flint lumber yard and see how much their 13 ply BB is. Is there anything less expensive that people use but is also lighter than mdf?

Ohh I know that lol He can adjust the port length for to keep same tuning.

It does change things though... What does it change?

Port area to cubic foot doesn't matter.

Welcome to ssa!

Happy birthday Rick!!!

That's better lol

I have 1 Xcon 12 and it gets very loud. Sounds great too. I have it on only ~1100 rms and have everything from firing not completely sealed off yet. I am waiting for my other one. It's going to be very loud, for me at least, when it's all done with. Maybe even some xcons would do you good. Save you some cash on subs and amp/electrical. They don't need a lot of power to get loud either.

Id rather see the pic of the dc sub out of the box next to it lol

http://www.db-r.com/sell/store2/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=65_67_69_110 It's a refurbished amp but is nothing short of a brand new one. I have a saz2500 from db-r and it's great. Runs just like a brand new one! Also comes with a 1 year warranty. Sundown is better quality than hifonics.

I didn't see anything get deleted. I can still see the first comp set lol

8-10 cubes is not gonna be enough for a pair of 18s. How do you know you have that much after port? Different subs will need different amount of port area. How much port area are you calculating it to be now? With 8-10 cubes I would do a pair of 18s, depending on how much port area you have.

It won't matter because the people with 4 15's with only 200 inches of port cramed in a wall in a 4 door sedan will run their head about not hear any port noise. But you and I know the differance between hearing port noise and the correlation between port COMPRESSION and decreased spl, increased coil temperatures, and higher group delays.It just blows my mind that people spends thousands and thousands of dollars on equipment and won't spend 40 bucks on a book to learn how to apply the equipment. Random noob entering the thread to try to explain the ignorance of a noob. I've read a bit lately about port area for subs, and if you are a complete noob, the info can be confusing (and/or just straight up contradictory). First you have to determine what info and from where seems trustworthy, and there's several reasons why that first step alone can be very frustrating.Next you may read the same thing over and over again, like this example - 12-16 in^2 of port area per foot. But after lots of searching and just when you think you know enough, you may find one obscure post saying something like "port area has nothing to do with box volume"...wait, what?!?! It's not just 12-16 in^2 per ft??? Not only did I (and I'm sure many others) read that on many forums before I started searching here, I also read it in a sticky here : BL 15 – Ported box we recommend using 2.8-4 cubic feet @ 28-37Hz. Again use 12-16 square inches of vent area per cubic foot of volume. Most people probably don't know of that $40 book or even just the need for it, and maybe some knowing of it would think these types of forums would be ample Cliffs Notes for it. Ok so I guess I'm done rambling, just wanted to explain the frustrations some of the noobs have in trying to "get it right". Thanks to all who are spreading good info! There's a lot of people out there that don't give a shit about how the box is and ONLY wants bass. This at least puts the people that don't give a shit about the box into an area that is somewhat good. 12-16 square inches of port area per foot would make the box usable, but not optimal unless that is what comes up for your specific setup. Some people aren't really wanting to learn why each setup needs different amounts of port area. This saves the users from putting a 15" BL in a 4 cubic foot box with 10 square inches or port area and then would also save FI from having to hear the user bitch, because their sub got fucked up.

Yes it can be done, but having the port in the middle takes up more space than a box with port on the side. A good idea is to have port 45s where the 2 ports meet and go into the single.

Just watched and wow do I want a louder system lol that'd be awesome to do that

Can't see it on phone. Can you post link or put the title and ill look it up in YouTube.

Then I am wrong! Gcon sealed is a great option!

Welcome! What's your budget? And what do you plan to power with it?

Fuck those bitches!!! I hope they get caught. Good thing they got their pictures and finger prints.

Try the crescendo. You never know it could somehow be the amp.

Ok because I was going to see if it was the rcas or the amp. I've seen both screw up the sound of the system.

I would lean more towards the ssd with high qts since its more for sealed and I've read many reviews where people were a lot more happy with the gcon ported than sealed.