headshok

hi there, if loud clear music all around is your goal, with your highs that can catch up with your lows, then spkrs everywhere is alright. after all, the more the merrier rite? hahah as for going active, if you're planning to use coaxial 6x9s all around, then active wont be needed as these coaxials already have a passive cross over in them. But if for example, you are planning something like G-monks old setup ( i think he had a bunch of tweets and 6" and 8" around) ahhh, then an active setup might be more interesting. think of it this way, if lets say u have an external active 3 way xover, you can configure it such that, each driver will only play until a certain frequency range and then cut off. thus this spreads the freq spectrum over 3 types of drivers ( tweets, 6" and 8"), taking some load off each spkrs as each spkr only has to play some freqs. Also, with the active cross over, you can choose which is the optimal freq for your driver to be playing, lets say tweets play ard 4khz, then ur 6" plays until from 4kz 200 hz, then the 8" plays until 200hz to 80hz.then then the sub plays the rest. basically u have control over your spkrs. as for subs in front and such, in some of the demo cars, its just simply cool to have subs in places where is shouldnt be. i think i saw some pic of a car with 8w7s in the steering wheels!hahaa but for some competition SQ setups, people BUILD the sub under the dash to achieve a super up front bass. think of it as, in normal setups, the sub woofer is behind rite? but to get a good sound stage, the bass must sound like its coming from the front. so the tuner has to time align the dam woofer all the way to the front and it'll be a pain in the ass. Now with a woofer in front, the bass is ALREADY in front, hahaha. so helps a lot with the imaging. Anyway, hope this helps out! Cheers!

they wont sound as good as a 1500 speaker in terms of tonal accuracy, but heck, in your loud application, it'll sound AWESOME! hahaha as said earlier, all boils down to your application.

hi there, think i can help u out here. first, you do know that a speaker cannot play the full range of frequencies rite ( 1hz to 20khz), it can only play up to a certain point before either it is unable to reproduce anything beyond that range, ie, u can get a tweeter to play 50hz and u cant get a woofer to play 10khz rite? So now, Active setup: in an active setup, the signal is split up before it reaches the amplifier. This this means that you have the source unit ( ie your deck) putting out a full range signal out thru its RCA cables. You can either use an active cross over ( ie like those avaliable from audio control). Thus the signal is sent to this active cross over, and the signal is split according to how YOU want it to be. Then from the active cross over, the signal is sent to the amplifier, thus if u have a 2 way component set in front, you'll now need 4 channels instead of 2 channels, because now EACh individual driver is powered by itself and the amp that is powering that driver already sees a " filtered" frequency. basically, think of an active system as a truck with 4x4 wheel drive. all 4 wheels are powered rite? but i'll need more " stuff" in the mechanism to get it to run rite?. same thing. Most of the time, in these modern times, people buy headunits that have active cross overs in them. Thus this allows them to cross the frequency in the headunit itself and set it out directly to the amp. Now, Passive: when you buy a component set, you get a pair of cross overs rite? Thus picture this: your deck puts out a full signal and is connected directly to your amplifier. Thus your amplifier sees a FULL RANGE signal ( whole freq range). this full range goes into the amp, gets amplified and comes out thru the spkr output on the amps. Now, if this full range goes into your tweeter, just imagine, your tweet will be seeing LOW freqs and this will BURN your tweeter. and your 6.5" will be seeing like 20khz, wont sound nice wont it. Thus, before the signal goes into the individual driver ( ie tweeter or 6.5"), it has to go thru the cross over circuit and it is in this circuit that the signal is split up and sent to the individual drivers. This is the BARE basics of an active/ passive network. active: signal split up b4 going into the amp passive: signal NOT split up b4 going into the amp. an active setup gives u more " fun" as u can adjust the cross over points and see how the spkrs sounds at diff points. Now about your question on speakers " behind" you. Firstly, you gotta ask yourself, what are you trying to achieve? SQ? LOUD ass daily setup? From what i know, most of you guys over in the US just like your music HARD, LOUD and LOW!. Thus for example, if u have a wall of 12s behind you and 2 miserable 4" components as a front stage, you wont hear crap and just hear all the low freqs from your woofers. Now, if u have a bunch of 6x9s, 6.5 or speakers in front and behind you, u will have a nice loud setup where u can hear both the highs and lows. basically, a mobile disco ! Then we have the SQ folks. This is what SQ folks try to achieve. imagine your dash board is a " live stage" where people are performing and where u are sitting is the audience seats. When the person sings, do you hear a voice coming from the rear? or when they start playing their instruments, do u hear it coming from the back? no rite? its all from the front rite. Thus this is where most SQ folks ditch their rear spkrs and concentrate on their front stage. at the end of the day, it all boils down to application. If you just want a loud daily setup, putting spkrs behind you aint no problem. after all, you highs will be able to catch up with ur lows, aint that better? But if u want a nice SQ setup with a proper sound stage and imaging, then ditch the rear spkrs. Cheers man

hi acidburn, i see ur from scotsdale, i was there last june, went to visit the " dream palace".. hahaha.. first time visiting such places.. (porn is illegal down here, so u can guess how f**ked up it is). oo yeah.. nice place! cheers

hi guys, Greetings from 15 hrs away. I'm from Singapore(it aint part of china/japan) stumbled upon this place from Termpro. sadly, where i come from, SPL IS DEAD! so i gotta seek refuge online. anyway, i'm currently an Atomic user. George has been great to me. So well. cheers guys!