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I don't know what to tell you other than the dealership is suspect, or AZ cleared the codes and most were old, hence the dealer only reading two. I don't know what to say about the mileage either. I don't know what kind of mileage you are getting and don't know whether it's normal or not. The previous owner could have had the truck tuned so that could have changed everything, and I don't know if the dealership would have picked up on it. Keep in mind that you are in a big heavy truck, and contrary to the smaller engines, the truck diesels are no where near as efficient as the smaller diesels you see in compact and midsize cars getting 50+ mpg. I know the light did not go off when AZ was checking the codes. As to the comment about AZ being fined if they cleared them, I know the light was still on when I left talking to him at AZ. I am not expecting 50 MPG. But with a 29 gallon tank averaging 15.1 MPG (according to the computer at time of fill up on the 2nd trip) when split between mainly intown and some highway on the first trip suddently eats 1/4 tank its suspect. 79 miles from my house to the mall in Tucson. There and back being 160 miles (factor in parking lots and stopping for a drink or two for the trip). Add in the 50 miles they added between test driving for a 'fix' and taking it to come see me face to face and so I could take my shit out if it and now its suddenly damn near on 1/2 tank in under 200 miles? Yea not right. Their lack of 'maintenance' and inspecting the trade in before turning it over is bullshit to me. J

Pulling the battery doesn't mean that all the codes will clear. What is the truck? Both were replaced. 2006 F-250 Turbo Diesel King Ranch Edition. I didn't have a check engine light on until about 450 miles into it, and it was eating gas like crazy. Already been to and around Tucson once before this trip. First time on it didn't budge off the Full line until I got off the highway. Same conditions of driving again, as I exited the high way it was at 3/4 tank. Its got a 29 gallon tank and the Check Engine light came on. I just found it odd that Auto Zone found 9 codes and the stealership found 2. Just doesn;t make any damn sense. The claimed the light went out when they cleared the codes, they test drove it (couldn't say how far, or up to what speeds) and it didn't come back on. Just doesn't sit well with me on a truck thats costing me a bit of cash, and that's just over 146K on a diesel. J 1. Dealerships exist solely to steal your money. Find a competent independent diesel mechanic ASAP. 2. The IH 6.0L turbo diesel was the worst diesel engine in a Ford ever. Do some research and you'll find all the problems with them. 3. Don't ever go to AutoZone to get codes checked. If you have a smartphone, you can buy a code reader and do it yourself, or refer back to number 1. 4. Automotive computers like regular computers have two types of memory, or file locations if you will. They have a temporary file and a memory file. Everything is stored in the memory until a hard reset by computer or disconnecting power for a prolonged period of time, which can be several minutes to several hours. 1) Only ones worth a shit are in Tucson. 2) Done and done. You are correct. 3).............I need to buy a code reader for myself anyways. Why the 'distrust' in them to check codes correctly bro? Not saying that they are perfect or even close to, but you are the first person I have heard say that. 4) I don't know how long they need but when a truck has dual batteries, and has them both replaced, I would have to assume that anything stored for codes would go away. And if the codes were still in existance why would it take 493 miles for the check engine light to turn on? Since in the state of AZ even if no extended warranty is purchased they must cover the vehicle for 15 days or 500 miles whichever comes first, all I want is for them to honor this, and since they 'fixed it' by clearing the codes, cover it if I have to take it to Ford for the exact same problem again. Or COMPLETELY fix the issue now, not just clear codes. I had my truck about a week when this happened and I called about this about 435 miles into owning the truck, was told to bring it in, and had 493 on it when they received it, how it takes 493 miles for 'pre-existing' codes to show up is beyond my realm of understanding. To me the options break down like such (in no order) - Fix the fucking issue(s) completly....don't just 'hide' them - Since you 'fixed' it , cover it at Ford if it happens again within say 3-6 months. SAME ISSUE nothing else. - Take my down payment and put it it towards a new truck beacuse I am not buying another used. - Give me my down payment back in full in either cash or check form (I paid with my debit card). I will gladly take my business elsewhere. - Don't help me. The truck will sit there while I contact my lawyers and Dodge Corporate. If you won't help me, I will take it to court to get out of it, have Dodge know what kind of shitty shady shit you are up to, and ensure that the Military base has you 'black listed' for fraud. That is well over 50% of your business, and will force people to the only other 'chain' of dealerships in town Lawly. congrats they now have a monopoly. J I don't trust Autozone or Pep Boys, or any of those idiots to check codes. Their code readers are generic and often repeat the codes. AS for the discrepancy between the dealership and AZ, it all depends. If you went to AZ first, then they could have accidentally erased the codes and when you went to the dealership, you only had two issues. If you went to the dealer first, you had two issues, and had more when you went to AZ. Keep in mind, they don't always keep the check engine light on. Some codes will flash it, some codes will light it constantly, some codes it will come on and off sporadically with. Now, I know very little about diesel, but if you are using too much fuel, you will be seeing it in the form of black smoke out the tail pipe. Are you sure you don't just have a heavy foot? Is the truck running bad? AZ was first..............I can understand the repeat codes but it was one code per cylinder and a double on the 7th. All dealership found was the same code on the 7th and 5th. The check engine light was on solidly with no flashing. I watched the AZ guy as he checked it, and then showed me the stuff and went back inside with me to give me more details. It then went to the dealership to have them look at it. As for the black smoke I wasn't seeing any but it doesn't mean there wasn't some. It was dropping very fast for diesel fuel and a 29 gallon tank. At the rate of fuel usage it showed when they came to me I would be re-filling it every 3 or 4 days. I was actually lighter on the pedal due to the storm so I wasn't hauling ass and the usage of the AC was about the same as the first trip. J

Also no extra smoke. Hell the damn thing doesn't pour smoke period. J

Pulling the battery doesn't mean that all the codes will clear. What is the truck? Both were replaced. 2006 F-250 Turbo Diesel King Ranch Edition. I didn't have a check engine light on until about 450 miles into it, and it was eating gas like crazy. Already been to and around Tucson once before this trip. First time on it didn't budge off the Full line until I got off the highway. Same conditions of driving again, as I exited the high way it was at 3/4 tank. Its got a 29 gallon tank and the Check Engine light came on. I just found it odd that Auto Zone found 9 codes and the stealership found 2. Just doesn;t make any damn sense. The claimed the light went out when they cleared the codes, they test drove it (couldn't say how far, or up to what speeds) and it didn't come back on. Just doesn't sit well with me on a truck thats costing me a bit of cash, and that's just over 146K on a diesel. J 1. Dealerships exist solely to steal your money. Find a competent independent diesel mechanic ASAP. 2. The IH 6.0L turbo diesel was the worst diesel engine in a Ford ever. Do some research and you'll find all the problems with them. 3. Don't ever go to AutoZone to get codes checked. If you have a smartphone, you can buy a code reader and do it yourself, or refer back to number 1. 4. Automotive computers like regular computers have two types of memory, or file locations if you will. They have a temporary file and a memory file. Everything is stored in the memory until a hard reset by computer or disconnecting power for a prolonged period of time, which can be several minutes to several hours. 1) Only ones worth a shit are in Tucson. 2) Done and done. You are correct. 3).............I need to buy a code reader for myself anyways. Why the 'distrust' in them to check codes correctly bro? Not saying that they are perfect or even close to, but you are the first person I have heard say that. 4) I don't know how long they need but when a truck has dual batteries, and has them both replaced, I would have to assume that anything stored for codes would go away. And if the codes were still in existance why would it take 493 miles for the check engine light to turn on? Since in the state of AZ even if no extended warranty is purchased they must cover the vehicle for 15 days or 500 miles whichever comes first, all I want is for them to honor this, and since they 'fixed it' by clearing the codes, cover it if I have to take it to Ford for the exact same problem again. Or COMPLETELY fix the issue now, not just clear codes. I had my truck about a week when this happened and I called about this about 435 miles into owning the truck, was told to bring it in, and had 493 on it when they received it, how it takes 493 miles for 'pre-existing' codes to show up is beyond my realm of understanding. To me the options break down like such (in no order) - Fix the fucking issue(s) completly....don't just 'hide' them - Since you 'fixed' it , cover it at Ford if it happens again within say 3-6 months. SAME ISSUE nothing else. - Take my down payment and put it it towards a new truck beacuse I am not buying another used. - Give me my down payment back in full in either cash or check form (I paid with my debit card). I will gladly take my business elsewhere. - Don't help me. The truck will sit there while I contact my lawyers and Dodge Corporate. If you won't help me, I will take it to court to get out of it, have Dodge know what kind of shitty shady shit you are up to, and ensure that the Military base has you 'black listed' for fraud. That is well over 50% of your business, and will force people to the only other 'chain' of dealerships in town Lawly. congrats they now have a monopoly. J

Pulling the battery doesn't mean that all the codes will clear. What is the truck? Both were replaced. 2006 F-250 Turbo Diesel King Ranch Edition. I didn't have a check engine light on until about 450 miles into it, and it was eating gas like crazy. Already been to and around Tucson once before this trip. First time on it didn't budge off the Full line until I got off the highway. Same conditions of driving again, as I exited the high way it was at 3/4 tank. Its got a 29 gallon tank and the Check Engine light came on. I just found it odd that Auto Zone found 9 codes and the stealership found 2. Just doesn;t make any damn sense. The claimed the light went out when they cleared the codes, they test drove it (couldn't say how far, or up to what speeds) and it didn't come back on. Just doesn't sit well with me on a truck thats costing me a bit of cash, and that's just over 146K on a diesel. J

Fuckin a its 70 in my house and I'm fuckin chilly. J

Had to take my 'new' truck back. Check engine light came on..............Auto Zone claimed 9 codes all relating to my cylinders not properly firing. All seems to point to a bad high pressure fuel relay. The stealership said they only found 2 codes., they cleared them, test drove it and saw no codes again. Claimed the 9 Auto Zone saw may have been stored codes. Considering you replaced the fucking batteries when I bought it shouldn't that have cleared all 'old' codes? So it sits there again tonight for more thorough testing. I have a gut feeling its an expensive fix. J

No fireworks here..............Just had a friend his wife and 2 kids over for a small cookout. Then today my truck started fucking up. thank god for the short warranty and me being 7 miles under it. I didn't buy the extended beacuse I always void it anyways. Something say's I will end up in a different truck. J

Very active Saturday iHoP!!!!! J

Just a bit..............I know plenty of them out here. J

my issue is the more I pay for food the more pissed off I am that I didn't do it my damn self and do it 10x better, with some yoga that could apply to both scenarios. The fact that the 2nd part is even up for consideration scares me. You need to come to AZ and sample our whores. J

You mentioned staying in state possibly. What about San Antonio? Riverwalk is kinda touristy but its set up pretty damn nice. Visiting the Alamo for Texans is like visiting Graceland for Elvis nuts, so that should prove fun. The strip bars were ok too. Sean mentioned flights to Vegas for 350 a pop. At a 900 dollar budget that would still leave you with 550 to spend. I don't quite see how you'd spend that much on a little food..............Unless its 350 each way. Either way man have fun, and that Naval Officer.............Have him put it ALL under his name. Hotel, show tickets, everything. All he needs to do is ASK about a discount. Hell you could if you really wanna be cheap stay on the Air Force Base in their hotel. Might be a pain in the ass for him to get you all on each time but it could happen with some finesse. J

She's a fun truck so far! J

Well here we go!!!! J

900 a pop? Easily done for 2 rooms. Try the Bellagio, The Ventian, Rio, Pallazo or Ceasars in that budget. Bellagio has villas with 2 bedrooms. Might make shit easier? They aren't 'cheap' but are very nice. If you do go eat at Club Niki at Tropicana one night. The outside of the casino/hotel looks like its old but the inside is classy. The food there is a bit pricy but the Wagyu skirt steak is REALLY fuckin good. SOOOOOOOOOOO tender and the mojito was perfect. If one of you is military (reserve active ng makes no difference) you can get a SHIT TON of discount on your show tickets. Like some are 2 for the price of one. Also the Excaliber has the Tournament of Kings. Kinda family oriented event but decent food and a nice show. The wenches and clevage make it worth while. The stratosphere has a 'free fall' attraction. Check that out too if $$$ and time permits. Hooters has mediocore at best food, the dealers are sub par at best anf the games while cheap are pretty shitty. Try the bigger casino's for better odds and more fun. If you need club recommendations just ask. J

Was Katie Morgan doing anal again? J

YAY more unpacking!!!! At least the Direct Tv guy is coming today. I can finally have some background noise. J

Budget, goals of the party in mind, and number of rooms desired. All these things will infulence my ideas. J

Pictures coming tomorrow. 2006 Quad Cab (4 full doors) King Ranch Edition F-250 Turbo Diesel. White in color. Needs a tonneau cover, and some minor cosmetic work but a great truck over all. 145k on the ticker. J

See my auto thread for details on the new truck. J

Military T0P!!!!! J

Fucking AWESOME! Thats why I love and hate watching friends and family come home. Its great that they are back but seeing the kids and the spouses tear up usually gets me a touch...............You think I would get used to it but NOOOOOOOOOO J

Time to go back to AZ..................Farewell SoCal.............Next stop the gas station............. J

Playboy friends T0P. J

If you know 1/2 the people at a mansion party then we my friend need to start hanging out. J