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Cayenne and Touareg are basically the exact same automobile, though. EDIT: In terms of size

Its a little bigger; Q7's are 200.2 in long, 78.1 in wide; Touareg's and Cayenne's are 188 in long, 75.9 in wide. All three share the same VW/Porsche designed platform though.

Like I said, Cayenne or Touareg (or Q7); take your pick. No stock automobile on the market can come close to either for your needs/wants...

Easy to park? I didn't realize you were a woman. so what, I like automobiles that are easy to park; sue me Estrogen causes that problem Estrogen levels were normal last time I checked a few years ago, so it can't be that

GVWR is the gross of all combined weight the vehicle can handle, towing, hauling, passengers, fuel load, etc. If that were the case, then it would have to be listed as a 10K+ vehicle. I meant the Toyota and Frontier are listed for up to 11,000 pounds gross combined vehicle weight (truck itself + fuel, passengers, cargo, trailer tongue weight, trailer, and trailer cargo); gross vehicle weight rating (truck itself + fuel, passengers, cargo, and trailer tongue weight) is up to 5,000 ish That is for the 4 cylinder manual trans regular cab; the bottom of the barrel model. Not so for the V6 models:

Gross is 5,500 if memory serves...

That's 11,000 Gross Combined, not Gross

but again the point is moot; you're going to get either a Cayenne or a Touareg so that's that

I have enough problems with my limited depth perception as it is

Easy to park? I didn't realize you were a woman. so what, I like automobiles that are easy to park; sue me

5000lb with that little thing? lol I towed a 1500lb trailer with one and it was super anemic. both the new midsize Frontiers and Tacomas (2005+) are rated upwards of 1,100 max payload 6,000 max towing 600 max tongue 11,000 GCVWR

yes I am being a smart ass

and by half ton capacity I mean 1,000+ pound payload capacity 5,000+ pound towing capacity, which is what most half ton pickups that I grew up with were able to do nowadays half ton pickups have 1,500 to 1 ton payload capacities and tow capacities upwards of 5 tons, which begs the question: aren't those 3/4 and 1 ton pickups?

I'm liking the new midsize Tacomas and Frontiers though; half ton truck payload and towing capacity in a small, easy to park body.

Toyota Tacoma TRD Young grasshopper you don't know me very well. 3) My whole reason in selling my truck is to not have a truck

In that case the Cayenne or the Touareg are pretty much your only options

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No, you were right. I have a tendency to use the word "fair" when I should be using the word "ethical". If life were fair, I wouldn't have had to bury 3 dogs, my grandfather (although he kind of brought it upon himself), and an uncle; I would have been born with a fully developed muscle structure in my left eye, I wouldn't have ADD, I would have 20/20 vision, and I wouldn't have this metal rod running down my shin. Life sucks and then you die; the trick is to make the most of the non sucking times...

Even Verizon and Google are backing Net Neutrality:

And if you notice the wording, they use the term lawful. Telecoms can still go after unlawful usages, such as botnets/DDoS attacks and the like...

You're right, I misspoke: Its because they act in an unethical manner that they are mandating these rules, specifically the last two:

It doesn't stop Comcast or any other telecom from operating, it merely forces them to operate in a responsible, ethical manner, at least when it comes to Internet operations...