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Not having a barrier between a child and the dogs is a superdeeduper huge safety issue. I don't care how well trained a dog is, if you have to brake hard the animal is going to panic. Not to mention even a 5-10mph fender bender. A large wagon or regular SUV like an explorer or larger is the only option if you want safety. By the time your child can push a dog away you will be in the market for a new most likely. If you were already stuck with a vehicle making a compromise might make sense. Since you can pick anything, pick what best suits your needs and if a spawn is in the car, you have to make your decision around protecting your DNA sharing parasite. :-)

I am probably the only one that pretty much recognizes all the cuts.....and I'm hungry. I do have some Wagyu strips in the fridge for dinner I'm on my way. :-D

^------I want all of them.

Ugh. I suck so much I can't even get drunk properly. Early to bed!

Weight of dead girls helps even more.

Helga fits a lot of dead bookers.

Just bodies in mine.

Only one that looks "right" to me.The Cadillac looks ok too.

This Sean?

That wagon is hot as Fuck. And I hate wagons.

Beautiful pic Neal!

More to the actual point, you will have 2+ cars right? Get one that is for moving the kids and one for going to work. You will either get something that does one of those things great or something that does both horribly. If you take MPG completely out, then you get a lot more options.

I'm also a bottle of champagne and an ounce of pinot finish bourbon in. Wine time soon I think....

More importantly the santefe and escape are really horrible vehicles. Personally I like the v6 boxy escape, but it's still not a good vehicle for the most part.

That's totes fair, but not at all what you mentioned in your first post. You also may have 2 times the limbs but the limbs on my dog are >2 times the length and I drive with a 200pound man and my dog in the back seat. Anyway. Do what you want, don't justify to me, but your original statement and what you just mentioned are polar opposite. If you need a kid/people and dog mover get an actual SUV or station wagon. That ugly magnum, the HHR, or anything similar is exactly what you need. If you want a nice version, get the infinity FX. In reality I wouldn't look at any of that. Get something comfortable like a real mid SUV. Cheeper to keep and better to live with.

SUV is a for sure. No human babies yet, but we have 2 60lb+ pups and we want to buy something that does have room for the human kiddo in about 1.5-2 years.I'll have to re-look at those vehicles. I think the SRX may be too small for us. I thought the CX5 was, but after looking at some other vehicles yesterday it may not be. The biggest problem I have with the Volvo is that UGLY center console in the years that we can afford. Seriously. a keypad in a car is ridiculous. I'm 6'2 400 pounds. My ! Dog weighs more than your 2 dogs and then add an extra 25 pounds. We fit better in the 3 than any SUV until you get to full size.The 3 series sedan has more room than everything you mentioned. There is no small SUV that will fit your needs. A traverse or edge could work, but they suck. In an escape or Santa Fe we could easily fit the dogs in the back and then people in the second row. You can't say that about a sedan.We own a Ford Focus hatchback now. It is flat out not roomier than anything we have looked at. The new ones are slightly bigger, but still do not have near the room of anything we've looked at. Your statement and mine are unrelated. I said my 3 series moves me, a dog that is more than your dog's combined in volume and weight, and my wife better than any compact SUV.If you need to move you, 2 dogs, and 3 other people then that is different. Is your reference to second row meaning a vehicle with 3 rows of seating or just back seats? If you need to move 4 people and 2 dogs you should be looking at explorers if you want any comfort. Having driven every car we are talking about and currently living with the 3 and the focus, the 3 fits people much better and it meets all of your bullet points earlier. Maybe there is some other need that must be met that you didn't mention like haul 4 people and the dogs.

Tons of wind and lots of torrential bursts of rain.

It's a hurricane here...

Every time I grow peppers rabbits eat them. Bastard bunnies.

I'm moving in. Boat rides and car rides every day.

Right!?

The funniest part of having a BMW is people think it's some trophy. I paid less for my vehicle than a big chunk of my associates. My wife has one of the lowest cost cars when we go to any family event, and everyone thinks we are just swimming in it, or pissing it away. It's interesting how people react when you have a certain kind of car.

I didn't find any Lexus either. :-(

Absolutely!