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I'd be looking to run a ported enclosure with as flat as response as possible ie tuned very low.

So what's the coil configuration on the gcon and is $120 shipped a possibility? I can run 4 ohm or 8 ohm total load, the gcon leaves me with a little expandability which I'm a fan of. The Ultra RPM looks decent but I have no information on it. No specs on that site. Why would anyone kill you for posting that?

What size is the gcon?

I got a little money saved up ~120 bones, and I need a little beat in the blazer, it's driving me nuts. Only power I've got is my Linear Power 3002 so it will be fairly low power but let me know guys.

If you need it fixed. I have a contact, but yes you'd have to ship it out.

Seriously. Our shop uses metra dash kits and antenna adapters, but we stay away from that Axxess cluster fuck. PAC pieces work way better.

That's what I thought. Q's killing me as I didn't want to have to push that much power.... but damn that Ethos is nice. Maybe I can run a pair of gcons in IB.

I'm not trying to start a war, but it kind of erks me that the only response I can get from the Blues side is that cabin gain will significantly raise low end extension. Please correct me if I'm wrong... Cabin gain will be different in EVERY vehicle. The boosted/dropped frequencies from cabin gain will be different in every vehicle. I can't imagine basing my decision on the theoretical "maybe" of cabin gain extending low frequency. It is much easier via DSP to adjust having too much of certain frequency areas, then to hope and pray that cabin gain will bring them up. I can always turn it down, but I can't make something out of nothing. I'm confused on the point as well. The iso kit performs well at ~1 cu ft @ 31Hz, why wouldn't this be something to show?

I don't know about an xcon, but I've done it before many times on older JL subs.

Never understood why people want to run a half ohm load for a daily.

I'm sorry I listened to nothing in the thread, just spent the last 10 minutes hating you for owning an AWESOME truck. I'm jealous.

I'm in love with the Ethos. 3 cubes at 22Hz. Yum

Buy the IA's on sale. CT's are an older board design with a few updates, but pretty much same boards that AT used for awhile.

I'd buy IA.

Bro music. Lol.

This is bc it was not designed for a flat response. It was designed for a slight ripple in response at tuning Bro I don't mean a slight ripple. Let me get a pic. The Ethos makes a beautiful SLIGHT ripple. I understand what you mean. Don't take this the wrong way, I spent 2 years and several samples to get the desired response. WinISD automatically models a C4 enclosure. Maximumly flat response with lowest possible rolloff. The Ethos was designed to go in a QB3 enclosure. Which yields a low roll-off, a bit of ripple and good transient response, with emphasis on transient response. When WinIsd models it's C4 you get a huge 14 cft box with a saddle hump in the teens. The sub just isn't made for that. Shrink the box down to 6-8 cubes and tune to 15-20 hertz and you get a slight ~1 db ripple in the ~30-60 hertz range with a f3 around 15 hz. Now put it in a 3ft box tuned to 32 and you get a massive ~5-6 db ripple which is why they seem to be much louder than the competition. They are just optimized for output in the boxes most people are running. Again this was intentional. But back on subject "CableGuy" has more experience with these drivers so I'd take into consideration what he recommends . I guess it just doesn't fit my goals. I'm sure they might sound great or something works well for other people. But I think for the money, I could run the Ethos with a giant smile on my face. I'd love to run a pair of Ethos' isobaric push/pull, but too much wattage! LOL, I guess I'll play with the AE's and Ethos some more to make my decision.

That's what I'm saying. It confused me that it looks fine @ 31 Hz, but with that roll off at 22-26, I might as well run sealed.

Let me please start this with saying I don't want this to be a Blues/LP bashing thread. I love the amplifiers and I think the midbass 8's and 6.5's sound great. I'm currently trying to decide if I want to run 2 Acoustic Elegance IB15AU's, 2-3 Blues BL10's, or a single DSS Ethos 15 in 3 cubes @ 22Hz. I love the Ethos and if I could reach xmax with only 1000w, I'd be done, but they need a significant amount of power. This is the BL10 tuned to 22Hz with multiple different sized enclosures. Honestly the BL's look pretty good at 31Hz, but not as good as I was expecting.

This is bc it was not designed for a flat response. It was designed for a slight ripple in response at tuning Bro I don't mean a slight ripple. Let me get a pic. The Ethos makes a beautiful SLIGHT ripple.

That's the recommended porting. Even at 10 cubes it looks nowhere near as flat as other drivers. When I modeled the Ethos it's a slight bump then flat. At ten cubes its a larger bump then a sjgnificant dip.

So maybe I'm confused and doing this wrong but I haven't had trouble before. I've been modeling a pair of BL10's based on T/S parameters from the website. I've been told that they work great tuned low for a flat response but they seem to model great on 2.16 cu ft each at 31 Hz. Actually when I run them at 24-26Hz they kinda look like shit. Am I doing something wrong? Or does the 31Hz tune look fantastic for a build? The blue line is 2 drivers in 4.327 cubic feet at 31Hz

Please fill me in cause I just received an email back from him this morning stating all he had was the mini pro's in stock. I asked specifically for everything he carried and specs on them so I can see about what horns I want to use in my future project. Whoops. I talked to him a few weeks ago and got quoted pretty good because he knows my boss really well. Maybe he's out already. I'd still wait for em anyway.

The new EJS Audio Horns are cheaper than that. Just e-mail Eric and grab the new goodies.

Right now we're looking running 3.5 cu ft net with (2) 3" Aero ports 15" long, should be interesting.

Kinda hard to help your situation man. There's no way to make a 4" speaker perform like a real driver. You don't need to fab some 6x9's or 8's into the doors to get some good sound, but you will need to run at LEAST a 5.25". I wouldn't. I'm working with my 88 Cadillac with factory 5.25"s and I'm going to put 8's in the car. That just means I have to get creative with making the install look as factory as possible. You asked how to make good sound, not how to stuff 12 pounds of shit in a 2 pound bag. Get some decent components and get to work. Those are the simplest door panels I've seen, this isn't rocket science.