NDMstang65

Sorry. I do not sugar coat things. I call the par for the course for precisely how it is. Anybody can man a glue bottle. Understanding the why's, how's, and the ins/outs of how these things actually work and the science behind them is a completely different ballpark. That's the great thing about the United States..anybody can start a company or a business. Just because you own an engineering firm does not mean that you know how to engineer your way out of a wet paper bag. The harsh reality is ultimately figuring out how to snow the consumer into believing they know what they are doing and spread idiocracy throughout the ranks of the internet and get their friends to purchase products/services from the engineering firm. You can have absolutely no idea what you are doing, polish it a little, throw some fancy words out there and consumers will believe you. When in all reality the product/service available...it is at par or below par for the course at the very best. Others who have owned engineering firms for years and have been doing engineering work for an extensive amount of time simply laugh at the engineer selling chicken shit sandwiches claiming it is chicken salad. (Look at the shake-weight)..people buy those things, shake them for 10 minutes, and never touch them again. But..it is viral and ludicrous enough for South Park to make an episode about it, and making it a hilarious spoof as well. It is a comical relief as far as working out and being healthy and leading a healthy lifestyle. Anybody in the fitness industry knows damn good and well it is a joke. You do not get a shake weight and then compete in the Mr. Olympia contest...nor do you go ride a bike and kick Lance Armstrong's ass either. But according to the commercials that are on TV it is going to get you ripped and toned. If you do not agree with it, my apologies. I don't believe in telling half truths and whole lies to get somebody to buy something from me. I believe in giving them a fair shake and a good deal to begin with on something that we truly machine and build in house, without ripping them off.

It doesnt exist? well heres a link of 20 motors on a flat bench now to actually answer the question you have to remember they are not really that comparible, btl is now neo, and the tsns is an 86lb woofer. the tsns uses a slightly larger spider, i have no idea about the btl's but im sure the better comparison would be the tsns and the btl n3. i wish i had pics to upload this tsns so everyone could see, but being new to this forum i am not sure. why insult a man's company? he builds good subs, just because they are different doesnt mean they suck? Been a field of lies for 4-5 years and taking customers money and never giving them anything for it. I would not take anybody's money knowing good and well what was really going on and lying about my buildings, machine shops, and build facilities in 2 other states that I think I have.. He finally showed up with something..AFTER I said that...what 4 years later? They aren't different...he does not machine anything himself, he does not have his own machine shop, I'd surely have doubts if they even have a magnetizer, much less could machine and build a motor from raw steel.

With that kind of power..look at BL's. Also don't forget we've got a 4" coil BL coming out as well.

It is made for daily driving musical applications.

I never heard anything back from him again..

Uploaded!

Sorry..it's a few years old..and that's the only camera I had at the time. I'm going to remake all of them shortly.

Pics are up! Tag yourself!

Noooooooooooooooo don't do that. It will eat the coating on the cone and then you have no way to pop the new dustcap back down on the cone. Do it my way lol.

Tonight!!

Never know what might show up

Lovin' it! Keep them coming!

Nope..it's all about using the proper 8" spider to make it work properly They will be 12 spoke 8" spiders.

Just your vision

Right on!

Waggy up!

I didn't know you had Q's in the waggy! Right on!

I've uploaded all of the pictures onto our Facebook! Tag yourself in your pictures and put some comments about the installs...SPL scores..numbers..hairtricks etc! Thanks!

Post links to your Youtube videos in this thread..if you've got hair tricks..bottle tricks..cup tricks, whatever you've got post it up! I want to get these up on our Facebook page as well!! Thanks!

Glad I could help!! Thanks! -Nick

Put them up! Numbers etc. as welll..or if you have pics of the subs themselves.

Ladies/Gents Looking for some cool new pictures of our products in your installs to put up on our facebook page! Post'em up!!

As he said..run the razor blade around the very edge of the dustcap.

Finished up all SSD back orders today..everybody should have tracking information and it will say in transit by around midnight PST tonight! Thanks for your patience!