SoundSplinter

Single 4's aren't quite ready yet. The coils have arrived though, so they should be cranked out sometime this week, next week at the latest (crossing fingers ). As for your enclosure question, I'd say a good 0.5 cu ft per driver would work quite well for your purpose. If you want to go into greater dialogue, you got my email!

Not officially.... BUT! Email me with your previous order number and if I've had a few beers by that time I may just help you out!

Hehe, it's been done .. but I don't recommend it since it's your responsibility not to destroy your driver!

0.88 cu ft gross on the RL-p12 will cause a fairly significant loss of output on the low-end. It will play very smooth and attain quite a flat response curve, but like I said, you may find the low-end lacking in such a small enclosure, even with polyfill. Then again, if you're not as concerned with output below 35 Hz and are generally in the market for flat clean response, the RL-p could work in that enclosure just fine. You could also run with either the RL-i10 or RL-i8 D4 and wire in parallel to 2ohms, or even a pair of RL-i8 S4's and wire the pair in parallel for 2ohms as well. The pair of 8's with ~325 a piece would be pretty sweet.. but so would the single 8" or 10". However, if you run with a single RL-i, I would keep your amplifier gain set conservatively since the RL-i series drivers use a 2" coil that is rated for 300 watts, and depending on the material you're listening to, the full 600-700 watts could damage the speaker if used excessively.

Indeed, I'm running a 0.7 cu ft selaed box on the new 8, powered with around 500 watts (and up to 1200 watts in limited fashion just for kicks), and she is quite beastly even in the sealed box. It surely doesn't get as loud on the low end as my 3.5 cu ft @ 25 Hz RL-p15 box, but its got enough muscle to be adequate for a small home theater. A proper vented box will be built this coming week for my living room and so I'll be sure to let you know what I think about that when the time comes. As for upper frequency extension on these drivers, they are performing quite capably up to 200 Hz (considerably better than the older RL-i8 to be sure). Unfortunately, my NAD a/v receiver has a madatory 200 Hz cutoff on the sub output, so until I do some tweakin' with my wires (or take a trip to the build house) I'm not going to be able to test it any higher than that. Hrmm.. unless I throw it in my car! Maybe I'll do that this week too if I can find the time All in all, I am exceptionally pleased with this one helluva 8" driver

Keep in mind that the RL-s is not necessarily an SPL driver... so if your primary concern is SPL, you may wish to look towards a handful (ie. 4) of our RL-p15's and throw them in vented boxes. That'll surely out-SPL the four sealed Memphis drivers. Nevertheless, the duo of RL-s15's off the Colossus II sharing 9 cu ft will be very impressive, and the sound will be absolutely phenomenal. Not to mention, except for showing off, you won't be able to listen to those at full output if you have any respect for your hearing.

The RL-s15's are shipping. We're taking a precautionary measure by opening up and implementing the internal fix on the 12's as well, so those should be patched up and ready to roll next month. flakko, all the defective 15's have been repaired, and the 12's are already back awaiting repair so no, you can't have a defective one!

> hey mike, any idea how much volume the driver displaces? Around 0.1 cu ft.

> when will SVC 4 ohmers gonna be ready!?! Coils are on their way, the S4's should start shipping early next month.

0.35" is an acceptable amount of minimum clearance.

> difference in performance will be between these new 8s and the proto 8s i have on my shelf? Not too terribly much, save for greater efficiency and what I would consider a sexier look. You got a steal on those proto's, still haven't had the time to decide what to do with the stack of 'em I have yet! > does kinda look like a TC9 motor,3" VC? Nope, the new RL-i8 features a 2" voicecoil and the TC2+hp motor. > .....I presume high frequency extension is still rather limited on these? Yes, it's certainly not a midwoofer - and I would say that crossing over below 100 Hz is ideal. I will take some time with it up to 200 Hz and report back to ya. It's a little hectic 'round these parts so if you don't hear from me by next week just drop me a reminder! > Mounting depth? 5.65" from the mounting flange to the rear-end, so I would suggest a solid 6" to allow for proper pole ventin'. > Any words as to price when these become available? Comin' at ya for $165 a piece single, or $149 a piece when buying two or more. The Dual 4 Ohm units will begin shipping at the end of this week, right after I get the webpages up! Waitlisters will be emailed tomorrow

> Is there any clearance issues with the cone touching the basket Not through its linear throw to be sure. I will be pumpin' some seriously excessive power to the driver this week and will see if this issue comes up, but it looks to offer acceptable clearance so I'm not expecting any problem. > Also, magnet boot's suck Not hard to take it off. > recommended rms power? 350 wrms > would there be a noticeable improvement over the older models? This driver is 3dB more efficient than the older model and also features a copper shorting sleeve which will be sure to improve the sound quality. Enclosure characteristics will be comparable.

At long last, the RL-i8 is slowly but surely making its way through production Big performance in a "little" package, with the improved features we had been hoping for. Among the key differences to note: Improved Suspension for Greater Overall Efficiency New Basket featuring slightly Smaller Mounting Depth Requirement Lower Moving Mass & Lower Inductance Lower Fs, Lower Qts, & slightly Higher Xmax Thiele-Small Parameters: Dual 4 Ohm Qts = 0.280 Qes = 0.316 Qms = 2.515 Fs = 28.967 Hz Re = 7.4 Ohms DCR Ls = 2.961 mH Vas = 21.98 L Mms = 77.97 g Cms = 387.1u m/N Bl = 18.24 T*m Sd = 0.0201 m^2 Xmax = 18.3 mm Sensitivity = 84.11 dB @ 1W Single 4 Ohm Qts - 0.217 Qes - 0.235 Qms - 2.798 Fs - 25.758 Hz Re - 3.78 Ohms Ls - 2.022 mH Vas - 23.44 L Mms - 92.47g Cms - 412.8u m/N Bl - 15.51 T*m Sd - 0.0201 m^2 Sensitivity - 84.14 dB @ 1W These drivers are currently on sale and will perform optimally in the following enclosures: Sealed: 0.2 - 0.7 cu ft Vented: 0.25 cu ft @ 35 Hz (Quasi butterworth) // 0.4 - 0.65 cu ft @ 23 - 29 Hz (EBS) Recommended Power: 200 - 400 watts In short, these b

> No problem. It wasn't a huge deal, and was easily fixed Better too small of a whole, than too big

> I was looking at the diagram in the upper left corner of that page you posted. Thanks for bringing this discrepancy to my attention. I will edit the diagram over the weekend so that the same thing won't happen to someone else. My apologies for the inconvenience

Hello there mystery man! I have one shipment scheduled to go out today (so far) for order #20060207-329. If that's not yours, and you're sure you paid me -- I suggest you PM or email me pronto so we can figure out what the deal is. If that IS your order, expect a tracking number from me as confirmation after your driver ships this afternoon. If you'd like to swap for a D2 driver, that won't be a problem, however 700 watts is perfect for the RL-p and the difference between 700 and 1000 watts won't be a big deal imo since the speaker will still get louder than your ears will feel comfortable off of the 700 Nevertheless, be sure to drop me a line quickly if you do want to change the order - cause if I don't hear from ya in the next, oh say 7 hours, I'll proceed as scheduled.

Hehe, like this? As for the re-release of the RL-i8's, I will have some pic's and the param's for those posted later this week. .. and will begin shippin' by the end of the week

As I told ya in PM, so long as you don't mind a measly lost dB, stick with the ~700 watts per driver as that is right on par for gettin' the RL-p where she wants to be. While 1000 watts per driver certainly isn't a bad thing, it is also not necessary for someone looking for a well balanced car audio system and who isn't worryin' about every last fractional gain in literal output. Your suggested enclosure of 1.75 cu ft @ 32 Hz per RL-p12 is definitely workable, and if you prefer an emphasis on the deep bass, I would suggest you consider a tuning around 28 Hz.

What can I say, I'm a freak with respect to seeking perfection

Well, you certainly shouldn't run the RL-p off of a paltry 110 watts, that just won't cut it (I'd suggest a minimum 350 watts, up to 700 for rock solid performance). Given the 12" driver; 1.8 cu ft net volume tuned around 22 Hz should do ya nicely. Sealed, I would shoot for 1.45 cu ft net.

As I said somewhere up there, the drivers are built and ready, but we don't have a proper gasket. None of our US based suppliers have the appropriate gasket tooled, so we are waiting to hear back from our Chinese suppliers as to immediate availability, however they are on holiday for their New Year through February 7th. Therefore, you can expect more information to come to light by the end of this week - and I do understand that this wait has been ludacris but what can ya do? I'll tell ya what! If I can't source a proper gasket by the middle of February, I will start shipping these without 'em plain and simple.

Yep, you could go with a pair of the RL-p12 or RL-p15 off of 400-500 watts a piece no problem. You won't get every last drop out of the drivers, but they will perform very capably regardless. Some people prefer to run drivers at a lower power in order to reduce any additional distortion that may be created as they surpass their linear excursion limits. So with ~500 watts per driver and a box built to spec you'll be in for some solid 'n clean bass no doubt. Throw ported boxes into the mix and you'll undoubtedly be louder than your current setup even off of relatively lower power.

Looks to be pretty solid. .. and look at that sky! Hawaii

Hey iceteebone - welcome back Sealed I would aim for around 0.6 cu ft. Ported on the RL-i10 in home, shoot for 0.7 cu ft tuned around 25 Hz. I would suggest going ported if ya can, particularly off such small power. 110 watts will no doubt work, but you could easily tripple that and gain more overall output.

> How long for the 10" SVC??? RL-i10 S4's should be in sometime in February. If you haven't already, and would like me to notify you of availability on any product, just fire over a PM/email telling me to (don't forget to include your email addy for the reply). > Any idea on the pricing [for the RL-i8]? Yes, but the final price is going to depend on what I can find the appropriate gaskets for. I can tell you it will be less than $160 per single unit for sure, and there will be of course be a "two or more" discount as is our standard. > If you had a sky scraper full of them we could have a group buy If and when I do, I will (might even put a few on sale even sooner )