heftybone

fortunately i have a mini-van, but I'm only using the very back cargo area. and i agree completely about the enclosure, i know that makes all the difference. and even though i am after sound quality, I'm torn between these two because of the tremendous sound pressure they put out as well. i do like to feel my quality sound! i know that they're both good brands, and i can't go wrong with either one. that's why I'm so unsure about which one to go with. i have to say that i like the way the soundqubed looks, they have that thing that made me excited back in the 80's, ya know? that was primarily what made the decision back then. now that I'm old(er), i do research and try to get the best value for the money, i.e. quality, reliability, etc... so you'll probably tell me to go with the soundqubed because that seems to be the one that i like, but the sundown amp is a monster, and it looks better on the inside. so does it put out the quality of the soundqubed? they're both class d but we all know that different manufacturers produce different sounds. like jl audio, i love their subs, but the amps sound like shit in my opinion. so yeah, there goes the indecision part of my dilemma. thanks for the response though, and sorry if i talk your ear off!

I've read somewhere that people where actually getting fake w7's from an internet site that i probably shouldn't mention. you might want to check the serial number, (ask him to tell you what it is, it's on the magnet), and make sure it's legitimate. you can comtact jl audio to find out, they have pretty good customer service, and fast too. as far as the ring goes, you need that to attach the surround so how the hell would that get lost? he might be saying that just so he don't have to play it for you. make sure to push in on the cone to make sure there's no coil misalignment, along with everyone elses suggestions. if it's all legit then it's not a bad deal for a $900 sub.

and i know it boils down to personal preference, but i haven't heard either of the brands outside of youtube, and it's always very distorted because of the mic. and i actually considered basing my decision on which had the most distortion in the vids, assuming that would be the one that hit the hardest! that was actually a joke. anyway, I've reduced my choices to either soundqubed or sundown. I'm getting a 15" sub, (either x-15 or hdc15) and a 2000 watt amp, (either scv-2000 or q1-2200). I've always liked the way jl audio sounded, and initially set out for the w7, but after some extensive research i really like both the sundown and soundqubed. i like the way the soundqubed sub and amp look, but i also like the fact that the sundown amp has a fan inside and more caps and transformers. the sundown sub has the high excursion surround, but the soundqubed has a 40mm xmax, so it's got a longer stroke than the sundown (assuming that the hdc15 xmax is measured one way as well), and with a 4" voice coil I'm sure it gets loud and hits hard. I'm not asking which brand is better here, hell i don't really know what I'm asking. i just don't have any personal experience with either brand and just want some of your opinions and advice. I'm going to be using an audiocontrol eqs and pioneer x7700bt with a seperate amp for mids and highs which i have all that worked out based on past experience and price. this is going to be a sound quality system for daily enjoyment. so any advice, help or opinions would be appreciated. also please don't hit me with the whatever i like better cuz it's up to me shit like i see so many other threads do, this is what a forum is for; discussion. if you don't want to talk about it because you've seen it so many times then just move along. thank you.

yeah, that is one slammin system for how many speakers he has. i guess volts matters, huh?

this is my first post here on ssa, and i think I've found my new home. if this forum is cool enough to have a section devoted to EXO, then it's gotta be the best forum on the interweb! and it's great that you're here.