Billy Jack

Yea I know that I just thought it was funny that they bash him when not long ago they where selling products with his name on them. So was it junk when they sold it or did it just become junk after they stopped selling it?

So what is it you run?

Ha I said I was gonna try just the components and see if I liked it. Would you go home and unhook half your system because I said to no you wouldn't you would probably do like me and take the advise with a grain of salt and try it both ways and see what sounded better. What sounds good to me may not sound good to you and vise versa. My hearing is actually damaged from years of equipment, systems, and gun fire so maybe I don't here what you guys here with just one set of 61/2's. And you got to remember this isn't a dodge radio or system cause I have replaced it all but the dash speakers. I mean honestly how bad can alpine and JL sound? Wait don't answer that lol.

Yes that is where you put it that way you can see exactly what voltage your amp is getting.

You got it right. Some people use several meters to see if there loosing voltage from the alt to the amp but if I only had one I would put it on my amp cause that way you can see what voltage your amp is seeing.

I think he heard you the first time.

Well how are they running from the factory cause as of right now they sound great. Can't tell which one is playing unless you stick your ear to it. I honestly don't get how these 6 speaker factory stereo's work myself seems like the 3.5's would be way louder off the same power as there smaller and handle less wattage but some how it's working just fine. I had my alpine h/u and power pack installed so I have no idea how they wired it except for the steering wheel control I helped the kid figure that one out myself i.e. read the instructions. Lol

Yea I love the way it sounds all I wanted to know is how these dodge dash speakers work like are they tweeters wired into a door mid or just separate coaxial's. I actually found the alpine amps owners manual online and it does go down to 2ohm so I'm good either way.

I'm using the same system extreme audio put in my last car I don't understand what the problem is. Right now it sounds like AC/DC is riding in the car with me playing how much better does it need to be. I have had many systems with just front stage and yes they did sound good but I actually prefer the sound of being surrounded by music. If the system didn't have as much output I would probably run a active system but as it stands I'm gonna try both ways and see which I prefer in this car.

I would use what they recommend you want notice any difference in your system from one to the other.

And by tuning you mean? Moving location of speakers, tweets, or setting crossovers? Right now I have my LPF set to 80hz and the HPF set to 80hz. Sound pretty good right now.

Looks pretty good to me but I'm not there in person. If it looks good from 10 foot away I call it good. My new car and build has a couple of flaws but from 10 feet away it looks perfect. It's hard to keep a daily driver perfect. I met my woman at a store one day in my work car and she was driving our show car and sure enough a guy in a huge full size suv backs right into the show car setting 3 feet from the hooptie work car and just drives off. I was so pissed I was like he could have totaled the work car and I wouldn't have cared but he nails the one that cost piles of money then speeds away. We watched the stores cameras but he had a plastic cover over his plate so you couldn't read it. Bastard he was.

Yea I'm gonna try unhooking the rears and the dash and see how I like it. My truck did sound good like that but I honestly prefer the sound of a car full of speakers like I'm surrounded by music and can't tell where it's coming from. To me it sounds like your riding around with the band right in the car with you.

Yea that's what I'm doing I'm just replacing the stock speakers with my JL's. Factory had 3's in dash 6x9's in doors and rear. I bought a bracket to mount my 61/2's and tweeters to mount in the front door. I plan on using some second skin door kits before I mount my 6's. I thought dodge may have been using the doors as mids and the dash speakers as tweeters but I guess there just separate coaxial's. I mounted my JL HD1200/1 in the trunk with a 1000watt capable battery and a JL13w7 in a prowedge box. I am having a dual ported box built for 2dub 7's and I'm gonna pick up another amp and altenator later from Arron here at SSA. I spoke with him on chat and he said he could get me a mechman to support the 2 battery's and 2 HD's. Should sound pretty nice when it's all completed its not to shabby now with just the one sub and factory speakers.

Well I already have the system except the dash speakers so I'm not spending any money per say. I have ran just components up front before but honestly I prefer the sound of 4 corners. I like to fill as thought I'm surrounded by music and have it set so it sounds like I can't tell where the music is coming from. I had the setup your talking about in my last truck and yes it did sound good but I like the 4 corners with components up front. Now if I had room for rows and rows of front stage then yes I'm sure that would sound better No doubt. But thanks for the patience in explaining this to me I do understand what your saying about proper staging or sounding like you have a stage in front of you.

Ow and I'm not trying to come off as a know it all I'm not I still have a ton to learn I'm just asking questions so I can learn the proper way to run my system. I have always just ran components up front with the tweeter as close to my ear as possible and a couple coaxial's in the rear and adjusted it to blend together. I always assumed this would give concert like sound. I always thought it sounded good when one guitar plays on one side and then all hit.

So what do you consider rear fill. I always assumed if you had components up front and coaxial's in the back it was considered rear fill. Is 4 speakers at 4 corners not the way to go. And I'm talking about without the dash speakers of course. I know 6 speakers throws it off but is 4 not the way to go for proper sound?

M5 I'm almost 40 and have been building systems and competing since the early 90's trust me I have heard them all from $20k SQL installs up to walls of 18's in competition vehicles. I know what proper sound staging is and like I said I'm gonna try replacing all my factory speakers first and if it doesn't sound right I will unhook my dash speakers. Right now it sound really good but the rear fill does over power the front stage a little but at a couple of clicks of fade and it's fine I'm pretty sure changing out the doors is gonna take care of that. I know some people don't like rear fill or thinks it's a waiste but I prefer it in a mid size 4 door car.

Hell even edouble said the replacement dash speakers worked really good in our vehicles. So it's a 2-1 vote there ssa tech.

Ow and the 31/2's and factory 6x9's are already running parallel off the same channel and its sounds great but yes that could change when I add the 61/2 components. If it doesn't sound right I will unhook the dash 31/2's.

I didn't read it any where I design my systems from personal experience. And my last car had the same system minus the dash speakers and its sounded awesome. And I like the sound the JL's make. Yes there are louder but not many that sound as good at such high levels.