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Carl

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  1. subs in the 80s and 90s was higher db/spl then subs are now and companies said a lower bd sub will take more power and last longer. what they don't tell you is that it takes 4 or 6 of todays subs to be as loud as 2 old school subs. so the company makes more money by forcing you to buy more subs and bigger amps to get loud
  2. Pioneer TS-W1200PRO they are 105db I have a set

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