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I would probably be interested. How much do you think you could sell them for? And when would you be selling them, becuase I probably won't have the money until after summer break, if not later. I'm not sure that I would get this quite yet. Even though WinISD shows the MJ-18M having more SPL after 20 or so hertz, the Dayton 15" HF gets it below the 20hz range. Thanks for the help

Kicker L5 10"? I really wouldn't want an L series for HT. However, I have never used one, so maybe people have had luck with them... Why wouldn't you want one for HT? Just personal opinion, or do you think it wouldn't sound good? And I looked for a used SI 15" Mag, but couldn't find any. Just new ones at $500. Does anyone know where I could get a lightly used one for something within my price range? Thanks for the help

What's his website? I'll check it out to see what he's got. Thanks

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Why did you hate the Dayton HF 15"? It just doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure the box is 70% of the issue, but I haven't had time to rebuild it. Plus the Mag is in an entirely different category in my opinion. Have you thought about shopping used? I picked up the Mag off of here for $100 SHIPPED. good option! good price. I didnt think to mentioned used. the mag is a great woofer. Where can I find the Mag? I haven't even heard of it. Thanks

Why did you hate the Dayton HF 15"?

What I meant in the KMK songs, is the semi-low rumble after a hit. I didn't really mean the low frequencies like 10-15hz, just what was after the hit. I will also be playing video games quite a bit, more so than movies, so would the Shiva still be better for games also? For the bold part in the quote, how much better quality would the sound be from the Shiva over the Dayton? I'm almost positive the Shiva will go loud enough, but if the sound quality will be a lot better, I will go with the Shiva-X and the Dayton SA240 amp. Thanks for the help

Oh, no I was just wondering if I needed one so the sub would sound better. I have been suggested a 15" Dayton RSS390 HO sub, and a Bash 300W amp now on a different forum. Would this sound better for my application rather than the Shiva with the Dayton SA240? The Dayton 15 would be in a sealed enclosure by the way. Link to sub: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=295-469 Link to amp: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.c...tnumber=300-750 It would actually be a little less expensive than the Shiva set up becuase there is free shipping for PE. Thanks for all of the help and for answering my questions

Should I go with a Sonotube design, or just a 6 cu. ft. cube for the Shiva-X with the Dayton SA240? Here is a crude diamgram of my room. Keep in mind that the furniture placements aren't to size, but are in the right place. The question is, where should I place the sub, and what kind of design should I go for? I would like to keep it right beside my dresser, but if it can sound better somewhere else, can you tell me where? I mostly sit at the left side at end of my bed (the end closest to the bottom of the picture) so I would like it to sound its best right there, if possible. Thanks

Ok, so even though the amps' xover only go down to 40hz, I won't need any crossover board to get it down to 20 or so hz? Thanks for the help

How something sounds will be completely dependent on the box. I, still, would get the Shiva-x and port it to about 20-25Hz. Ok, I think that's what I'm going to get. But the amp is going to be the Dayton SA240 watt amp with no bass boost. Also if I don't like this amp, I can always get the O Audio 500w amp for my birthday What kind of crossovers should I get? Thanks

How big is a 6 cu. ft. box? Designed as a cube, if possible... Thanks

Can anyone tell me if the CSS Kit that includes the 10" driver, 2 PR's, and the 300W amp would sound better than a Shiva-x with a Dayton SA240 watt amp? By sounding better, I mean that it will hit harder in Rock songs, and be able to handle the lows in songs like Down 4 T h a Krown, and some bass testers songs like Bass I Love You, and Beats for My Van. Any help? Thanks for all of the help so far. Been a great help. If I didn't come here, I probably would have just got the 2 Kicker Comps and been unhappy...

Ok, I think I will get the Shiva-x, but I have just a few more questions. Would the Shiva-x hit harder in Rock songs, or the CSS Kit? Which would be able to pick up the lows in songs like KMK, and be able to handle them really loud? Also, my room is a square (obviously) should I put the sub in the corner? There is exactly 19 inches between my floor bordes, and my dresser. And I have carpet, if that matters any... Anyways, would it be better to put the new sub by my wall unit that is 56 inches away from the side wall? Also, what kind of crossover do I need to get? Any good brands for that also? Thanks

Here's what he said, and what I asked him: Most of the OEM subs are small, and require equalization in order to achieve good performance. They also tend to have very steep subsonic filters that are set high (30Hz or so). That means they just won't work with the Shiva in our recommended boxes. I'd not even waste your time on it. The PE 500W Bash amp is a good solution for the money. Kevin Haskins DIYCable Inc. 175 South Bay View Ave. Unit 23 Ph: 360-452-9373 www.diycable.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Dylan Rodriguez To: Kevin Haskins Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:41 PMSubject: Re: Shiva-x Subwoofer What is tons of EQ? And, if I do get this sub, I will get a O Audio 500 watt amp or a Dayton 240 watt amp later on down the road. Thanks,Dylan --- On Thu, 4/16/09, Kevin Haskins <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kevin Haskins <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Shiva-x Subwoofer To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 3:40 PM You won't harm the driver. If it is designed around an 8-ohm load you might damage the amp. It also likely has tons of EQ so it will most likely be a horrible solution to drive the Shiva. Kevin Haskins DIYCable Inc. 175 South Bay View Ave. Unit 23 Ph: 360-452-9373 www.diycable.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Dylan Rodriguez To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:43 PMSubject: Shiva-x Subwoofer Hello, I am thinking about getting the Shiva-x subwoofer to replace my Yamaha 10" home theater sub. But, I have a question about it. If I get the Shiva-x, can I hook it up to my current Yamaha sub's amplifier without it harming the Shva-x sub? As far as I know, most home theater subs are 8 ohm, and my other Yamaha 8" sub is an 8 ohm, so I am assuming that mine is too, and I see that the Shiva-x has dual 8 ohm Voice Coils. Thanks Anything else I need to ask him about it? Thanks

Sorry, I should have defined what I meant by sounding better. What I mean is, which kit would be able to handle the low frequencies better as in louder and cleaner without bottoming out? Also, what I was thinking about doing with the Shiva-x, if the box is big enough, is instead of getting the O Audio amp, could I just get 2 Dayton SA240 watt amps and have it equal close to the output of the O Audio amp? Thanks

Ok, I just emailed DIY cable about it. Do you guys want me to tell what he says, in case you want to know? Would this sound better than the Shiva-x with the O Audio amp? And, it's actually quite a bit cheaper http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=QUARTET10 Thanks

Ok, I'll try to make sure it somes in D4. But, of course I will upgrede down the line. How should I build the box, like down firing, front firing, etc...? Thanks for the help

Ok, thanks. Is there a way I could just run the Shiva-x to my Yamaha 8 ohm 100 watt amp from my current sub until I get a new amp? Of course without harming the new sub though. Thanks

Man, why does everything seem like it's out of my price range? Ha ohwell. Would the Dayton SA240 amp be decent enough to power the sub until I get the O Audio amp? Thanks Is this rack amp any good? Or is the O Audio still better? I might be able to spend around $300 on a amp now. http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=54081

Ok. Is the O Audio amp any better than this? Also, what do you mean don't run the sub to my receiver? I was just meaning using my current sub's amp until I could get a better amp. Thanks

Oh, Ok. Ya I knew what that stood for then If I get this sub, could I make a new box, and hook my 8 ohm amp from my Yamaha sub up to it, if I can wire the sub to run at 8 ohm? Thanks

That's what I would do. That would be a great combination. Just make sure you get the right VC configuration. What's the right VC configuration? And what does that mean? Ha I don't know very many of the audio terms yet, but I'm learning. Thanks

Sorry for the double post wouldn't let me edit the last one. So, should I just get the Shiva-x with the O Audio amp and just save the rest of the $425-500 left over, or does someone else have some other suggestion that could be even better? Thanks

Do you think that two Shiva-x's would be too much for my room, with a O Audio 500 watt amp, or something similar? I think what I am going to do, is get the Dayton SA240 240 watt amp with the Shiva-x sub, then ask for the O Audio amp for Christmas, and maybe another Shiva-x, if one isn't quite good enough, which I hope one will be. Thanks As rush said, you are WAY out of your price range at that point realisticaly. If you have more money let us know. Is there a reason you want more than one sub? If you have a valid point we can change it up and work with that too. In your situation, it would probably just make things much more complex, and end up being less logical. We want to help you, but you're changing the rules. It's easy to get excited, and shoot for the stars and go up and up and up but eventualy you run out of cash. Why don't you tell us what the absolute max for budget is. Let us know if that includes the box or just the woofer and electronics. Well, the price range that I set was just what I could spend, I didn't even think about anyhing else like gifts and stuff. And I just firgured two subs would better since you can split the load between them, so it's not stressing one so much. The absolute max is $500, i guess, but would like to keep it below $425 if possible. And I would have to save untill around February of next year, and my birthday will help also. And that is without the box and accessories, just the electronics. What can you do with this? What sub, amp, and crossover, and box type and size would you recommend? Thanks for the help. Sounds like you need a job. Its best to learn early on that its not always good to rely on other people. just my 0.02 cents The only reason I am here is becuase I don't know what to get, cause I don't know what is good, well...somewhat. I know that certain subs are bad quality; I didn't know that the Pyle amp off of Ebay was bad quality. I do now though, becuase I asked here first, before wasting my money on something that would break and be bad quality. And I do know that it isn't always good to rely on other people, becuase they could just be saying stuff to make them sound like they know what they are talking about, or they just think that one thing will be better than the other becuase they have it. And, there are people that WILL help others out if they don't know what to do. If I hadn't been told otherwise, I would have ordered 2 Kicker COMPS and be very dissappointed, but now I also know that those aren't good for low frequencies. I have learned a lot in the past 2 days, or whenever I posted this topic. Thanks