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Yeah seriously. Why do you guys need to waste money on vitamins and minerals that you get from your everyday foods? To get bigger? Stop being a vagina and work out a little harder. Duran, there is more too getting bigger than just working out. I agree, you can get your most of your nutrition from food, but it can be expensive and time consuming cooking chicken six times a day. And I would never recommend eating red meat all the time. As delicious as it is, it's high in fat and cholesterol. It doesn't make you any tougher not taking supplements. Again it all depends on what you want. If you want to be a Jay Cutler, or any form of bodybuilding, you're going to need dietary supplementation. If you have no problem being 5'9" 140lbs, you're not going to need any supplementation. x2

LMAO!!!

I am an amature when it comes to car audio. I post more help questions than I do solutions to other peoples' problems. The xxx are nice but I was going to put 2 sets in the front. People told me I would get cancelation and it would not be loud like I was expecting. Therefore I am seeing what else is out there as far as a 3 way front stage and see how much it would benefit me.

A 7" would not pass?

You could probably fit it if you were so face the sub up towards the trunk and have the port facing the cabin. Pontiacs have some big trunks but that is also going to require a big box. You should see what the max dimensions you have for the box and then post them over here.

Shipped the rockfords back. 500 amp fuse rating on a 4000 watt amp was rediculous. Efficiency was something like 76%. Don't know what I am doing for comps. I havent even installed the RE XXXs yet and I might sell them.

6.5 in the door and 6.5 in the kick

7" would most likely fit without the need for door modification.

The factory cutout was a 6x8. However this was 6 wide and 8 high. The way my door is setup there is no way I can cut anymore area width wise to fit an 8.

The problem is i have no room for an 8. i looked at my door and the 6.5 is barely fitting. If you would like I can take a picture of the door to show you and maybe you can tell me what I should do. Cutting more holes in my door is out of the question and I am incapable of doing fiberglass.

I have 4 18s walled going in and I need to get as loud as humanly possible but I need it to sound somewhat good. I will sacrafice some quality if it means getting louder. I like my highs and my mid bass. I listen to a lot of techno, disco, and hip hop.

i was just looking at my doors and i am pretty sure i cannot fit an 8 in my door. I am pretty sure the largest I can go is a 6.5. Is there still a good 3 way setup i can do with a 6.5 in the door and then whatever else in the kick or on the dash?

If that is with port and displacement calculated in you better make a bigger box. Minimum space is never a good call. If you can squeeze more out of the box size I definately would. As for the 3500 I wouldnt use it to power that sub for daily unless you plan on tuning it down. That amp will put out close to 4kw rms at 1 ohm. Impedence rise does not matter. For every hike in impedence there is also a drop in impedence when listening to music because of numerous sine waves. If you were competing and you were to play strictly tones this would be a differnent story as you could calculate the impedence rise of that single sine wave. I understand the BTL is capable of 2000+ rms but surely it is not able to withstant almost double its rated power for very long. I would stick with around 2500 rms on a loaded btl if I were you. This is straight from Fi BTL 18 – Ported box we recommend using 5-8 cubic feet @ 30-35Hz tuning, you can tune a little higher if you wish but we recommend keeping it close to 32hz for a daily driver. Again the same 12-16 square inches of area applies per cubic foot of volume.

Did you buy 2 sets of components as well?

Yeah seriously. Why do you guys need to waste money on vitamins and minerals that you get from your everyday foods? To get bigger? Stop being a vagina and work out a little harder. Wow. So much insight to your post. You and M5 should stick to car audio where your vast, overwhelming knowledge gives you the right to bash people and their ideas even if they only want help. Of course what else is one to do when they are of a superior mind? I beleive it says be respectful of others goals and share some of your experiences. You did neither. You failed to read my whole post...there you go I highlighted what you need to read Right. I must have missed that in your one sentence. Not everyone can get all those vits and mins through their diet alone. Hence the word supplements. And why do you even care what people take and dont take? Its fine if you dont like or take them. Thats what makes everybody different. Vitamins and minerals aren't synthetic, they are natural, and they come from eating food. Protein is found in dairy products and red meat, also soy, and eggs. Creatine is another popular one, it's found in fish, and again red meat. I care because it's pointless for people to spend money on this stuff, there are better things to spend money on. You do realize all whey protein is is dehydrated milk and soy. It is impossible to consume 1 gram of useable protein with the essential amino acids in it per pound of body weight. You would gain 10 lbs in one week. As for certain creatines such as monohydrate they can also be found naturally in red meat but you will never get adequate supplementation out of it. I will agree with you on certain products that are deemed artificial such as no-xplod (even though I take it) and animal stack.

alright thank you

What do you consider a true 3 way setup as far as speaker sizes? Also do you have recommendations? I have around a $500 spending cap.

As it stands right now I have a mid in the door and in the kick and then a tweeter in the door and in the kick. I was going to change the tweeters in the door to the dash. But if a 3 way or something else is a better choice I will do that since I did not use these speakers yet.

Scratch what i said. How would you approach the situation? I need the loudest I can get but I do want it to sound clean and decent. Would a 3 way setup be better for what I am after? If so what would you suggest I buy as far as size speakers and which ones. I have enough mounting depth in my door and can most likely fit an 8" in there. For the kickers I have a 6 1/2" cutout but I can always put a plate over that and seal it off. I can also seal the tweeter hole if needed in the kick and mount a horn tweeter on the dash.

In the back I figured we would hide the batteries in what would look like a bench. Above the bench we can have the 2 3500s next to each other, then the 100.4 below them in the middle and then the 50.4 directly under the 100.4. I will draw up a picture in paint tomorrow at work since my mac does not have paint =( The baffle height we should go 41.25 to be on the safe side. The box would be 4" from the back seat. That is reclined to my comfort position so if needed I can pull my seat up. The width starts to shrink at 23". All of these measurements have been taken with the front floor plate going over the transmission bump in the middle of my vehichle. Thanks again shawn!

Well the front was with the expanding foam. Its not exact . The back is kinda 3d and that is supposed to be the hatch ending lol. I'll have the measurements in 10 mins.

so would it be louder if i were to put an 8 in the door a mid in the kick and tweeter in the kick?

believe me when i say i am a guru when it comes to working out ... i have the unofficial state record in deadlift and bench press for the junior division 181 weight class

I recently read that if you were to have 2 speakers play the same frequency that they will cancel and would be about the same loudness if I were to play a single speaker. I have 2 sets of components in my front and am wondering if they would sound just as loud with a single set? People add more subwoofers and they get louder so I just don't understand why it makes a differnece.

I figured that would be best but didnt know if the grounding distance would play a large factor. Grounding distance is actually 5 and 10 not 5 and 8.