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I have L7 and a center in my current vehicle and no matter how much dinking around it NEVER sounds better in L7.

MY old '88 GMC went through two engines, a trans, and 228,000 miles before I had to put a fuel pump in it. I think it was the only original thing on the truck, and that sumummabitch waa a paint in the ass. Sending unit was pretty much corroded into the tank. I've not seen any manufacturers using the LS engines in Marine yet. A few have in particular inboards http://www.indmar.com/ProductLine/Indmar/6.0L/index.html

Older version of this motor: http://www.indmar.com/ProductLine/Indmar/5.7L-HO/index.html ie, still wired throttle which in a boat is my preference. Cruise control on it is funny. The throttle cable goes through a servo for fine adustments, but that worked really well.

And yes 350, not LS

600 hours, average 3000rpm (or so, let's just call that 80mph for shits and giggles) = 48,000 miles

My M3, M5, 328i, Lincoln Mark VIII (3 of them) I all drove in MN winters. Only the M3/M5 received snows and I never had a problem, but will say that the snows COMPLETELY change a car for the better. In our climate I'd much prefer ANY of those cars with snows to my ML with normal all seasons. Hell they make such a difference I actually bought snows for the ML as well.

Winter tires. And turd for both reasons. My Silverado was the biggest POS I've ever owned, but more importantly in this case you know any asshat that likes those exact rims on that truck has his priorities completely screwed up and I am sure has not taken care of that truck at all. Even if you "have" to buy that model I wouldn't at all be interested in that one with or without the rims.

And further defines the problem in SQ competitions. As always, it depends on what your goals are. Personally if you are doing it, you might as well move your mids up high on both pillars and make a center pod so that they are all at the same level. And then of course I'd only use it for movies which I don't watch in a car so the reasoning is dubious. Of course for some reason you also seem to use rears which is equally as dubious so I say go for it if it makes you happy.

And Luke as for how I feel about the two, I much prefer driving the Malibu. Not fair though as it is a flat hull so it handles better. The other thing it has is a much easier to clean up wake for wakesurfing and generally it throws it in a more robust way. Needed extra ballast in the x-25 and this boat had none and didn't even put down the wedge (adds about 1200lbs of virtual ballast) and it still had a nicer surf wake. Wakeboard wake equivalent. Low speed handling WAY better. No pull to the left at high speed either. Downside is fit and finish and potentially big wave handling. Didn't take the X-25 out on a lake where there was enough traffic to really feel that benefit, but I've driven enough boats to know it won't "slap" as easily as the BU. Throttle response was better on the BU too, but it is a bit unfair as this one has the bigger motor and an upgraded prop. Interior space goes to the BU for my tastes as it is bigger in the back albeit smaller in the front. I like that trade-off others might not. Both great boats and I could live with either, but used in my price range there are not MasterCrafts and there are Malibu's so even if this one doesn't work out it will be what I am buying.

Double post, but whoops. Boat test left us to being towed 2x. Interested in anyone's thoughts on the problem at hand. Boat did have leakdown/comp test and both are well within spec. Wet test: First go right from the launch after dropping the throttle it bogged a bit after accelerating for a second and then leaped to life. This happened on a certain percentage of getting on plane. When not acting funny it would pull to 5500 (rev at 5300) and sit and bounce off the limiter. This was at about 40-42mph which considering this has the upgraded Acme prop tells me that when its working the engine is fine and has compression. After running it hard, WOT across a 1mi stretch a few times it started to stutter like it was at the rev limiter but instead of bouncing off it and back up it just went down. Sounded sort of like a 2 stroke that all of sudden is on one cylinder. Really not happy. This progressively got worse the longer we ran it and would start at lower RPM’s. Within ten minutes it would not go into gear without dying and idled like utter shit, again sounding like it was firing only a few cylinders perhaps with some backfiring. At that point we figured perhaps that it was out of gas. The gauge read 1/8 tank, but who knows if the gauges work super well on an 04. We had another boat tow us in for gas and while it started hard and sounded like a boat that was run out of gas (died again, idled rough for 30 seconds) it then was back to normal and we proceeded to repeat the whole procedure and it acted pretty much the same. Actually it ran normal for me the whole time except stuttering a few times when getting on to plane (which I repeated 30x), but the instant I jumped off the boat to back down the trailer it died on the salesman and a jet ski towed him the 50’ onto the trailer. Engine is 8 port EFI, GM 5.7L, has knock sensors and other electrical “helpers”. It pulled no codes when we got back to the dealership, we put the boat in the wet tank and ran it for 15 minutes and it ran fine. We could not however run it near WOT as the prop moved so much water in the tank it would blow out. That being said IMO it has to be either heat related since we needed to run it hard or fuel related. My real guess being the latter. It really did act like a boat running out of gas pressure and missing a bit. That being said perhaps under heavy WOT the fuel pump is pumping so much that it pulls in water from the tank if its contaminated. Not sure why it wouldn’t do this when it is cold though as water should always sink. There was no water separator on the boat just a filter. I am ruling out the filter because it was intermiddent. Now what I am not ruling out is the fuel pump. This acted a lot like when my truck supposedly had a bad fuel pump. Real intermiddent and worse with heat. Of course in my truck it ended up being a bad wire connection to the water temperature gauge. My memory from the test drive says that the water temp gauge never got up to temp, but was so busy checking everything else out that I forgot to double check and didn’t think about it at the dealership either. Be rather funny if it had the same problem my truck did.

I'd much rather drive a stang with snows than that turd and I live in MN

5 min late boo

I really hate waiting for people.

Take it out, its the clink that makes the drink and the booze should be at room temp.

Thanks J, only here for a few hours just for a boat ride Shouldbe on the water in an hour. Must be nice... The end of nice will be writing a big effin' check.

Thanks J, only here for a few hours just for a boat ride Shouldbe on the water in an hour.

andthatsmyTOP

I didn't leave, on this plane for another 20 minutes.

And I'd whore it up, but I'M ON A PLANE with SUPER slow internet

Seriously, POAST

you guys suck. I spent $12 on plane internet and there is no one to BS with.

Classic

how else are you going to find bigfoot?

Sounds like a good time, should have been camping. I probably would have kept my shorts on then. I was naked most of the night I think. Note to self; never drink with dem beats. Especially on a camping trip... Come on sally. Everybody is doing it. Actually sounds like fun to me.

Sounds like a good time, should have been camping.