///M5

Lol, maybe I will.

After being bought by the Chinese I wouldn't expect an answer anymore

srsly? which cartoon?

Boss comes tomorrow morning, hopefully he doesn't think I am a pig.

psht, like i've ever posted threads here about PA speakers in a car. And I've never said never to use PA speakers in anyone's car, on the other hand I have specifically called out certain PA drivers as absurd.

What about it is hilarious?

The face itself isn't meant to be funny Duh, but what about it is.

That is more the back of your head, lol

Thanks, I think you did that. I didn't call out Florida as a whole, just said that the majority of hair brained ideas I see on this forum come from those in FL. Actually said 8 out of 10, which I admitted might be high but it is a rather biased amount. In no way was this meant to say that everyone in FL was an idiot or any other put down on the whole state. I also definitely referenced there are some really stupid ideas happening in mass in car audio in Florida, but you just agreed with that statement above. I have no respect for anyone who wants to be loud to garner attention and never will. If your manlihood is so small you have to go around being a pest to people and blaring music they think is shit, then you need your head re-adjusted. Now that being said if you want it loud as balls for you, by all means do it and I'd even be glad to help. The manlihood comment should only be taken personally if you are one of those that drive around and try to disturb others, otherwise, don't take it personally it isn't about you. Sorry this wasn't more clear in my post, but even re-reading it I don't see how it could misinterpreted. You misunderstand what would impress me. Doing more with a different design and no other changes is the task at hand. Maximizing what you can do impresses me. Most definitely can theories be defeatable, but this is done empirically and at that point the theory becomes invalid. A theorem on the other hand is proven and while of course everyday scientists are finding new and different infomation, unless you can prove it wrong empirically it holds true. If you remove the theory from your argument and just look at the rest of your sentence, "i personally believe that this build has proven its self, and utilizes the entire spectrum of variables extremely well in the design. not just the physics, and wave lengths, but also the pressure, angles, and acoustics of the vehicle." you give a subjective response. You believe, fine, but that does not disprove any theory. Now you bring up something I already brought up in the acoustics of the vehicle (which surely encompasses pressure, angles, wavelengths), which is exactly why I asked the questions I did. So far at this point the designer and I have the same information. We have some info on the drivers and power available and need to make a box. He designs one and assumes it will sound great, I see the design and show why this is different. The box has a narrow response and another alignment with those same drivers in that same space would have a wider response and can keep the same peak. Then we both get to add cabin gain and change the plots again. He made some judgement that said that the enclosure volume would work well and that it would meet Malibu's goals. This will become very clear and easy if he just states why what volumes, port size, and the alignment was chosen. And again, I'll list the possible driving force here. It is very possible that Malibu forced him down a path that made no sense. If this is indeed the case, as I said before I apologize to the designer. I already commended the build quality, but considering all you guys dwell only on what I highlighted as negative I'd like to point this out again. The installation and build of the design is stellar, great job of executing that part of the plan. I'll await and expect the response of why what was chosen.

Not really that one per se, but the troll. It just reminded me to ask.

Out of curiosity what makes those troll faces funny?

I'd do that with you.

I've been busy playing catch up. Amazing what just taking a Friday off can do.

Exactly why I re-opened the thread. Doesn't just have to be the designer, but it shouldn't be some emotional subjective response of "I heard it and it sounds great" as that means jack and shit. Again to put this in context. I never said it wouldn't be loud, I never said that the OP won't like it, I never stated his goals were stupid or that I wanted him to do what I'd do, instead I stated that based on his goals I would have used a different design. The drivers chosen in the alignment chosen for the space and power aren't the best end to what he was looking for and an improvement in SQ without a loss and potentially even a decent gain in SPL could be had by changing alignments.

Simple 4th order ported in that configuration is peaky and steep, cabin gain will fill in some but not enough to make it anywhere near the performance you'd get out of a different alignment. That I shouldn't have to state as the designer should know that exactly and I'd venture the guess that he does. The real question is why each volume in the enclosure was chosen, why that port size, and why that alignment for those subs in that car. The designer had no more information than I did when he started the design, he decided he liked the peaky plot and that it gave him some benefit (or again Malibu misled him). The real question is why. Again it should be rather obvious why I don't agree with it and not sure why I have to state it over and over. As for the comment on Florida. If you read it in context you wouldn't have taken it as me saying everyone in Florida is an idiot. That I didn't say. What I said was that the great majority of people that are misled and have wrong misconceptions that come to this forum are from Florida. This doesn't apply to the whole state, everyone that visits here, or Florida in general but it does apply to the sampling of questions that I've seen on this forum. 8 out of 10 may be high, but it is a majority. Just as a reference, here is BigBoi's quote of mine: If those of you from Florida took that personally, perhaps you should question why.

Actually I'll leave it open and give you the benefit of the doubt that you can actually post something useful for discussion. If this goes into an emotional multi-post rant it'll get closed. IE, trolling for the sake of exposing something isn't going to be tolerated but if you have something to say that is fruitful go ahead. I'd start by posting a response to the VERY simple questions I asked.

As I stated before, I've already explained why it is flawed. If you want to have a discussion otherwise bring your facts to the table and not emotions.

You didn't listen that was emotional, come up with some facts and if the builder wants to discuss fine. This is closed as it will go nowhere.

That paid for a lot of stuff Nice work.

I hate conference calls

I didn't lock the thread. Wouldn't have posted in it again if it was locked. As for my statement, I'll repeat it and stand by it. It is not an opinion that in particular that 4th order BP was not the best use of space, it is not an opinion that the output of that box does not have a smooth response in the frequency domain, the only opinion is the one of "sounding good". If you and your cronies think that is a good sounding box then all I can do is pity you. I stated multiple times in that thread that if the OP likes it good for him, but that sounding good is not its forte. As for why the thread was locked, it is rather obvious. Troll central without any information to support any claims. If the box designer wants to discuss his design that is more than fine, but obviously from the posts on FLSPL that isn't the case either. Even funnier considering the "designer" had to start out with the same exact assumptions that I do. His led him to thinking it would sound good and mine that it won't. That should really be the only discussion here. I said his math was confused, albeit potentially based on misdirection from Malibu and not due to his own understanding. So two choices. Either his math is confused or he was misled and made something that isn't optimal for the goals at hand. "Good enough" perhaps for the OP perhaps, but the OP's understanding of anything audio is obviously very small. Lastly, feel free to post in here as much as you like but keep the emotional bullshit out of the Ihop. This is for off topic posts. If you feel you need to discuss this, please feel free to make a thread but take time and re-read it to make sure that it isn't emotional banter and actually has a point and a reason for discussion otherwise it won't exist either. Trolling posts will not be tolerated but any and all logical discussions are encouraged. I'll give you a hint, basing something in science instead of subjectivity would help a ton.

HBD!

If you were closer I'd give you a steal of a price on a 73 dual port 1600 and some empi 5 spokes.

If you can do only 60 it is probably the original 40hp 1200. I'd expect more even yet, but that tranny could be slowing it down. A quick compression test on cylinder number 3 will tell you how it is fairing though. If that is fine, I'd do a quick valve adjustment as they can go out rather quickly.

Antique plates, lol Standard 1600 or has it had some fun done to it? Not that something that light needs all that much...