///M5

That sucks for you.

Stop taking things emotionally and personally and read objectively it will really help this conversation No one has ever ridiculed or insulted any of you other than your silly approach of saying it sounds the best to me so therefore these are the greatest speakers since sliced bread. Instead please respond for ONCE without any subjective nonsense which in your whole post you again forgot to do Um, you can't analyze one spec but only the set. As for showing what they do "free-air" they will actually show what they will do in any environment as long as that environment is known. I've offered and asked now three times for someone to show where this isn't the case but no one in the subjective camp has anything to say about that. Considering this is the case, there is another SIMPLE question you could answer. Ask Ray how he designed specifically for "dynamics, realism, and that "I was there live" feeling one gets when listening to a musical passage" when he designed the drivers. This would be some scientific input we would all really love to hear. Perfect, please share how this design was developed and what was done to make this happen. That would be stellar. As for the second portion of the quote, no one on here would ever recommend 24 speakers and that bs which is rather obvious from tons of other threads on the forum. Stop, again NO ONE on here cares what you think about how your car sounds. This isn't a knock on your hearing, but the fact that the subjective nature of that response is nonsense. There are tons of us that could easily say the same about our vehicles but you don't see that happening now do you? The only ones in the pissing contest seem to be in your camp, we are not competing with that as we surely don't believe in it. There is really only one way to be helpful and you haven't. Answer Impious or my questions. If you don't know how or can't ask for clarification. Since you seem rather convinced these were designed to be musical and ... then share the design process of how that was done. The only reason you could be taking any of this as insulting is if you are reacting emotionally to the fact that your subjective opinion matters not. Silly thing to get insulted over. As for understanding specifications, we'd be glad to help but there seems to be a disconnect in your understanding completely. As a whole they will describe EXACTLY what a driver will do in ANY environment so you can imagine the complexity of your answer. As a primer, pick up a copy of Vance Dickason's book, Loudspeaker Design Cookbook and read it. Once you absorb that it will make answering your question VERY easy Again, there is only one way to make this thread something we can learn from and it is for your camp to share something objective. IE, not subjective, not emotional and not about what YOU have heard. Instead share Ray's design process, his testing process, how he has tweaked standard driver design to do what he has done. So far we have no details AT ALL on the driver other than what we can see from the pictures and pricing and on the surface the two do not make sense together. Let me give you one other bit of insight. Basically everyone who reads this thread is getting a really bad picture of Blues, and not at all from Impious or my responses but from yours. I am sure that without answering our very simple questions you guys are doing a really good job of destroying potential customers instead of helping yourselves. This is the internet, people don't buy on emotion that they aren't connected to and that is ALL that you guys are sharing. For the sake of this forum, your company, and rudimentary science please stop. I'd love to see you guys post something useful and challenge you to try as so far it has just been one heck of a mess. Please prove me wrong. And again, don't take this personally. I have nothing against any of you and actually at this point am just amused at the stubbornness, but I do look forward to a real response.

Of course same and WW would get their packers from the same slaughter house I bet

Not when you buy the packer Unmolested by the idiots. Package says BEEF. Brine >>>> Injection, but I am not doing either. Hell its already on the smoker as I lit her up to completely stabilize before I went. Have not seen a packer inside a Wally World in quite a long time One thing that is hard to get here, but always there. 14lbs $26 SAMs club always has good meat, they're owned by the same people... But theyre not open very late No doubt the quality of food and "food" sold in Sam's Club is much better than your typical Wally World And Costco >>>>>>> Sam's

Not when you buy the packer Unmolested by the idiots. Package says BEEF. Brine >>>> Injection, but I am not doing either. Hell its already on the smoker as I lit her up to completely stabilize before I went. Have not seen a packer inside a Wally World in quite a long time One thing that is hard to get here, but always there. 14lbs $26

Could be, but that story is overblown. I've had 7 and none of them have been that way.

<<< never a whore

Casflan is reading...but not typing. Things are normal in the hop Welcome bakc.

Indeed, happy birthday Lincoln Man!

Pretty much. There was one critical piece of information though that was correct. You will NOT hear a difference between 500w and 700w on ANY subwoofer (that can take both amounts of power) so why bother doing anything other than setting your 700w amp to output 500w. BY FAR the best idea and nothing else will make sense. *of course I'll let you choose how and where you set it to 500w as we all know songs aren't recording equally. Considering, just set them by ear with appropriate songs for your listening habits, just don't be dumb about it.

I am an Uncle 19 times...all but one by marriage though.

Not when you buy the packer Unmolested by the idiots. Package says BEEF. Brine >>>> Injection, but I am not doing either. Hell its already on the smoker as I lit her up to completely stabilize before I went.

Hope you are feeling better Sean. Thanks Neal, just completely robbed of all energy atm. Sinuses feel better, but jeez this sucks. Not so funny as before children I NEVER got sick. In more than 20 years of working full time I have never taken a sick day until 2010. *excluding the two hangover days I took as sick days*

Jon, I can't really tell what dimension goes with what, but to simplify separate it into two boxes. Then just do X*Y*Z/1728 = cuft. Add the two together and you are set. Make sure to subtract the dimensions of whatever material you are using and then realize you will still need port room, but that should give you the right idea.

One more subjective response and we will be nearly at the level of Ultra = Blues, lol.

Crap, have to go to Wallyworld as I needs a brisket.

Not that I know of, just adjust the amount of hardener as necessary Sort of true. Sets like shit below freezing

I'd never use a list of faults to negotiate as it leaves open counters, instead a simple "in its current condition I would pay xix" is all that is necessary. Defending the price with issues isanother thing altogether

Considering I am about to list mine I like that. What coo you think. 02 z71 LT e/c with topper and 128k miles

Sleepytimep

Being sick I am in bed on it now

Full remote of everything. Got it yesterday while in san jose and just got home

Convenient so when you sell them to buy something that actually fits your needs you won't lose money

Yep, but the crackberry does email better. Not than the new global with vpn support

I wouldn't do business with them...but I also have no need for a big ole alt.