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Not as funny as the "great advisors" posts tonight.

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Put a small amp up in your dash, under your seat, in your center console, or whatever. You don't need much for the tweeters to get loud. Building a passive isn't a good solution for what you want to do.

I wasn't serious, lol.

Is your front stage in the wall?

Do you know what a sine wave looks like in the frequency domain? How about a square wave? Now picture something in between the two. And by your second sentence I am now under the impression you have no idea why clipping is bad in the first place. What do you think happens to the average power when you clip? What do you think causes thermal issues in drivers? Do you understand now?

I am curious why you "can't" add an amp right now as from your posts I can tell that you can't build a passive either.

You lost the battle to pyschoacoustics.

got a question for you what or who told you to set with a dmm. reason is i know for a fact that you can set it by ear or by osiloscope never ever use a dmm. reason is it give's false readings even with paek hold set on it. see the ac as we know it that the amp out puts is realy a pulsated dc that is considedered ac. the problem with calling it dc or ac is there incorrect it has trates of the two stuff like. polarity and can form a sine wave etc... if you try to use peak hold on the dmm it is not accraute as the o-scope to get it on the verge of cliping and you can not dectet this with the dmm, this is unless it has a oscope feature on it. this is why they say you should over power with the amp and set to the distortion method so to bring the gain up slowly till distortion is heard and remove gain till no distortion is heard. sorry not trying to be a prick just try to help on bad old habbits ask around it true. Holy crap really??? I can't believe you actually think that is true, lol. Flat out wrong, a dmm measures voltage. Not falsely either. Again wrong it is 100% AC and not DC. The rest of your mumbling about polarity and sine really makes absolutely zero sense and is not only unintelligible but completely inaccurate. Other than the fact that indeed you cannot determine clipping with a DMM, but can on an oscope. And in this case the OP would be fine to set the gains with a DMM as he is going to set them well below the power capability of the amp and therefore by default it won't be clipping....that is unless the AQ amps are even worse than I think they are. I would also agree with Brian that by ear or O-scope is better than a DMM, but in this case it won't matter.

If you can't do it, how do think the indicator can? As I said, sine waves are easy. You realize you just stated that it is okay to clip on music and implied you shouldn't on sine waves. That isn't right. It is NEVER acceptable to clip. Do yourself a favor and run a clipped sine wave through an FFT analyzer once and see what happens. Then do the same exercise with music. You will never say that it is okay again.

Holy crap Ryan. Were the tenderloins missing?

It is REALLY easy on a sine wave, try that on music. Of course I know you can't as you couldn't read it on the scope but neither can your amps. That was not a valid test of the light, lol.

Effff, I have some cheese waiting for macaroni but I forgot to buy macaroni yesterday 500-525g of flour and 4 Extra large eggs or 6 eggs. Mix until it is doughy (i just do it on the counter with my hands), knead for 5-6min, rest for 20min, and then flatten as much as possible. A pasta roller helps or an extruder if you want macaroni style noodles, but imo a noodle of any type will work. Gracias for teh recipe. I know my grandmother had a cheap pasta roller, she used to make awesome noodles. Using home-"brew" eggs must have helped. I use eggs from the farm too. Shit I use as much as I can from the farm. During winter on most of the small farms here people don't keep livestock in heated or even insulated "facilities" so egg production drops a lot which means little to no fresh eggs until spring They are just in a coop at my in laws, but they only have enough chickens for eggs for them so I don't think production is an issue. And by them, I do mean they give each calf an egg twice a day to add to the milk replacer. We grab a few dozen every time we are up.

Effff, I have some cheese waiting for macaroni but I forgot to buy macaroni yesterday Aww that's a bummer! I shredded some Tilamook cheese GOOD stuff! Cheese in Europe >>> cheese in US. Regrettably. Some good ones are available here, but not in your normal grocery store. It's made in Tilamook Oregon, amazing stuff. I was in heaven when I took a tour of the factory Hands down favorite cheese ever, I normally buy generic everything at the grocery store, but it MUST be Tilamook cheese I know. They sell it here too. I still much prefer artisan cheeses, but for the monster production cheeses it is more than fine. BTW, you shouldn't ever eat generic cheese. I sure the hell wouldn't drink the milk it is made from and it won't be better in cheese form.

Effff, I have some cheese waiting for macaroni but I forgot to buy macaroni yesterday 500-525g of flour and 4 Extra large eggs or 6 eggs. Mix until it is doughy (i just do it on the counter with my hands), knead for 5-6min, rest for 20min, and then flatten as much as possible. A pasta roller helps or an extruder if you want macaroni style noodles, but imo a noodle of any type will work. Gracias for teh recipe. I know my grandmother had a cheap pasta roller, she used to make awesome noodles. Using home-"brew" eggs must have helped. I use eggs from the farm too. Shit I use as much as I can from the farm.

Closing this thread. It wasn't ever going to be helpful so its done.

He said he needs 2 sets of components at 150 $ for each set. So 300 $ total ! That should be enough for a good set (in the USA). And $300 for an amp. Still part of the front stage so his budget is $600. He left off deadening and such so I figured we'd have to pull it out of the budget already given. Either way definitely gave us $600 to play with.

If you could design a clipping indicator that worked and was cheap to manufacture they would include one.

Put them in a box. Why not just add a cheap little amplifier for your tweeters and keep it active. It will sound better, will be cheaper, and way more flexible.

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