///M5

Of course if I get one of these I am going to have to buy a spot welder and make my own battery pack. Pretty much will fill up that whole triangle. Figure I'd have my wife make a custom bag to cover it so it looks like a frame bag that is conveniently the width of an 18650 battery. I'd love to have a CAD of the frame though and no dealers in town to measure one out on.

Some of the XL's have nearly 4" more reach than my current bike. I do need a long stem and a seat setback to fit on it though. Would love to get rid of that and a stack of >650 means I don't need a riser stem and a reach of >500 removes the setback and 15-25mm off my stem. Would be huge!

Problem is now I want to ride trails so I am contemplating ebiking my fatbike for a while and just riding what I buy. Either way I'd like it to fit on both. SUPER easy to fit something on my fatbike, lol.

BMS peak at 80A for nearly 6000w

The bold (and some others) have threaded bottom brackets. I really want a threaded one, stupid pressfit shit is nonsense...in particular if I am going to through 72V at 60A through it with peaks significantly above that.

This is only part of what I have collected but it gives you an idea. Note the long reaches and then you will see they are either XXL or XL mostly from 2020. There are exceptions going back to 16 but they are not as common and most of those include uber short chainstays which I want, but can imagine most don't as they change the stability a ton. I want a manualing machine. If you aren't pulling a wheel off the ground or both I am not having as much fun!

Reaches on XL's are finally long enough for me. Stacks (height) stayed the same pretty much though. SC I still "should" have a XXL but think the reach on the XL will be enough. Do note that what I say is not universal as some brands are more progressive than others.

Can't wait to copy what you do. As for mortar, no idea. Firebricks they sell at Home Depot.

I remember. You don't anymore btw. New bikes are sized up on the top tubes. SC run smallish though since they XXL, so you might on theirs.

3 hole stuff all sucks IMO

Even the standard SPD's don't allow as much float. I had osgood schlatters and my knees need love. For normal people it is no problem.

It is cheap. Buy it. I want plans/ideas from both of you!

You needed an XL?

New last summer was 2020. The 2021's are out and the 2020's on clearance

I am not an SPD fan...but that is because I need some extra float on my knees. If you don't they are fine. It is what I have on my wives bike. As long as the soles are stiff so you don't get hot spots I would absolutely buy something more comfortable.

Ones that work in real shoes are frustrating with clips and vice versa. Takes 30sec to change pedals.

Especially if it support 4000-5000w of e-power

New hightower in 2020. Game changer compared to the previous. Contemplating a nomad as well but just hoping the geo on the XL is enough for either as I don't want to have to order an XXL because that means new. If the Kona process had a threaded bottom bracket it would be a no brainier choice for me but I refuse to own pressfit shit

You have WAY more options than I do too. The Dominators are about the only shoe that come in my side. If I had my druthers I'd buy a soft sided shoe with a monstrously reinforced footbed for stiffness to take away any potential hot spotting.

Was going to go test ride a Santa Cruz Hightower today. Think their new XL is big enough so I don't need the XXL. Also hoping I can fit a 72v battery in the triangle...if so a 50mph e-bike will be in my garage before next spring

On my 3rd pair of Sidi Dominators. First pair lasted around 15,000 mi, 2nd pair I commuted all over in and wore them as shoes. Bought some a few years back and will probably never wear them out. I have been riding flats lately though as well as I prefer them for completely jacking around and such. My manual and uni-wheeling are not where they need to be to go back to clipless.

I should add, basically my shoes are road shoes with soccer cleats on the bottom and 2 holes. Super comfy...but they fit perfect. I am a fan of either laces and lots of them or compression straps.

Even if I were a roadie I would NEVER buy road shoes. Huge fan of Sidi's. What pedals are you using?

You are making me miss my M3. Ski pass BP ftw

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