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they're quite a bit better than they were 5-10 years ago or 15, 20, 25, 30 , Still not enough Come on now, they did have a few good mistakes in those years. Mistakes true, but I forgive them and Tom for liking them.

Pro Alpha >>> Beta but it will let you screw up a bunch more. Not sure if it will be understandable although I find it uber easy to use. boy, i tell you , this stuff is insane all at once, i'll give her a look, i guess i got a design all up in my head and am not ready for that complex of an install yet, hell all i know is i think it looks cool.... that bcae1.com, wow, i got to go find some finacail aid before i can read some of it. No matter what modeling program you use do NOT just hit go and accept the box. The real trick comes to understanding how it responds to your room and such, which is far from trivial in particular when your room is a car. i am wanting to be done early spring, i will shop and study till then.....i want to feel as if when i do build this first box, it will be very close to optimal for my taste and expectations..... in a few days i will let you see what i am working on, just for your input, ....if that is cool. Don't just take mine. I am not into output. At all. Throw something up here if you like though, plenty of people read in the hop. You could also do a thread preview in here if that is more appealing.

When you have more wood, why not use it?

He said what were they worth, not what they cost lol. A read through the noob thread guidelines would help. They are in my sig. Please read and adjust the question as you've given us no background to go on other than subjective and if that is the case personally I wouldn't pay $50 for a pair if I couldn't sell them right away. They are of no interest to me....but might be to you. Unless you help us understand your needs though that will be impossible to tell.

wow, if sex made you feel like that your peni is stronger than mine. It gets sore before my legs need ice that's for sure. I wish I could attribute it to that. Me too. I'd clap for you all the way from Lake Orion MI Haven't been in Michigan for years, lived 60mi south of you in Belleville till I was 7. I went out on a boat motherfucker. And yes I wore my flippy floppies. where is m2?

Dumbass used a shitty seat.

If you want them back, same deal I'd sell them to you anytime. Not that I don't "want" them, but if they go I'll replace them with something I build. Either way is fine for me, although having a hole to fill usually motivates my ass. Thanks for the offer, but it will be at least a year till I could even have room for them, and at that time I'll probably build something new... I didn't say it had to be now Not like I don't have another room I could put them in. My house is teh small.

A single baffle might be louder, but personally I wouldn't run anything less than a double. Hell even my little 8 gets one.

clap = cheer in drunk Sean speak

wow, if sex made you feel like that your peni is stronger than mine. It gets sore before my legs need ice that's for sure. I wish I could attribute it to that. Me too. I'd clap for you all the way from Lake Orion MI

What are your mains?

Pro Alpha >>> Beta but it will let you screw up a bunch more. Not sure if it will be understandable although I find it uber easy to use. boy, i tell you , this stuff is insane all at once, i'll give her a look, i guess i got a design all up in my head and am not ready for that complex of an install yet, hell all i know is i think it looks cool.... that bcae1.com, wow, i got to go find some finacail aid before i can read some of it. No matter what modeling program you use do NOT just hit go and accept the box. The real trick comes to understanding how it responds to your room and such, which is far from trivial in particular when your room is a car.

If you want them back, same deal I'd sell them to you anytime. Not that I don't "want" them, but if they go I'll replace them with something I build. Either way is fine for me, although having a hole to fill usually motivates my ass.

I usually post on more than 5 sites at a time too. This is what I call relaxation. any other good sites for audio out there? diyma looks like its goin to hell. i only used it for the kipple data and reading through all the build logs... there seemed to be some kinda of crazy fall out over there... not sure what happen??? i also lurk on the phoenix phorum alittle... Depends on for what. Diyma has gone to hell. Fall out is easy to explain, but here is not the place. Needless to say Ant Milne is the next Ben Fucktard. I've never seen such a slippery slope and personally wish he weren't associated with this site at all. Of course I said that a couple years ago, but it isn't only my opinion that matters and I am okay with that. Care to PM me the reasons? I ask beacuse while I am not a member there I do lerk from time to time. J Not really. While I don't want to pull punches, I also don't want to be an instigator either. Wait a while if things continue my passive aggressive response will become more aggressive. Perhaps you noticed my sig.

Thanks. Some people can't take the brutal truth. And yes I am opinionated, but if you ask a detailed question I will try my best to help all opinions aside.

I don't know if you compete seriously or not but that advice should only be saved for the noobish daily driver and not for a competitor if that's hell-razor's goal. Are you really serious? That is one of the least educated statements I have read here. The BTL with the same power will ALWAYS be Fi's loudest sub. ALWAYS. Really? Then explain to me how when ROE did the great 12" comparison that the Fi Q, which was given half the power the BTL was given, produced MORE pressure between 35-50hz in the same box and tuning.. And i know the BL is geared to be louder than the Q so using the BL would exaggerate this even more. Touche, one assumption I made and that was that they drivers were used in reasonably optimal boxes. However I feel that is a really fair assumption if you know anything about drivers. There is all sorts of wrong in that ROE test.

PM's are fine, I am traveling tomorrow and Sat is a big day so I might pull a 48hr vacation from the site.

R2, amusingly the sales guy that works for me has 2 pairs of identical Maggies to the ones you delivered to me. Nice.

Put 50 miles or so on an Exige today.

I already started, join me. And myself as well. Batting 100% this week Me too. mmm, trap shooting and beer. perfect combination

wow, if sex made you feel like that your peni is stronger than mine. It gets sore before my legs need ice that's for sure.

For comps go for it, for other reasons don't.

Sorry Tom, if it is any consolation I like you even if you are misled.

they're quite a bit better than they were 5-10 years ago or 15, 20, 25, 30 Still not enough

I usually post on more than 5 sites at a time too. This is what I call relaxation. any other good sites for audio out there? diyma looks like its goin to hell. i only used it for the kipple data and reading through all the build logs... there seemed to be some kinda of crazy fall out over there... not sure what happen??? i also lurk on the phoenix phorum alittle... Depends on for what. Diyma has gone to hell. Fall out is easy to explain, but here is not the place. Needless to say Ant Milne is the next Ben Fucktard. I've never seen such a slippery slope and personally wish he weren't associated with this site at all. Of course I said that a couple years ago, but it isn't only my opinion that matters and I am okay with that.